British Airways' Director of Flight Operations

[Phantom4]

Once Lindsay left and HR took ascendancy it was bound to go ' sub optimal'

[FlipFlapFlop]

Originally Posted by Pilotless

Zero/Zero, okay, morals (I accept I have none and I'm very okay with that - it makes me dangerous)

Oh yuk.

Pointless post. The DFO will say when he is ready and why would anyone on here know the actual reasons.

[2 Whites 2 Reds]

Pointless post. The DFO will say when he is ready and why would anyone on here know the actual reasons.

Absolutely. Maybe more details will come out once the dust has settled. I flew with a trainer just before crimbo who mentioned that it was becoming a full time job for the DFO to keep the wolves from the door of the training department. First I'd heard of it and was utterly god smacked. Apparently outsourcing of training / checking was being thrown up as an idea on a regular basis and very much thought of as a positive step in the eyes of AC and his bean counting chums.


Of all the cut backs I've seen since AC arrived, this is the one that's saddened me the most. They've just secured the pensions, Eurofleet CSD's and Pursers have redundancy looming, training department rumoured to be under threat. What's next, the dry cleaning.....oh wait....

[cessnapete]

Suggestion is that he was “removed” not resigned. Too much on the crews side, not enough the tough Company man in the present Cruz driven agenda.

[RexBanner]

Being asked to resign and being removed are two peas in a pod. The question is how can we force Cruz out?

[overstress]

RexBanner, WW will bin him in a heartbeat once he's served his purpose. It's just a matter of time. Then he can replace him with someone cheaper....

[Dozza2k]

CM going too. So he can't replace SR...

What the hell is going on? These guys will have signed on as pilot managers for the rest of their career at BA, and now 2 seniors have been pushed..

[hunterboy]

I would imagine that the closure of NAPS might help a senior manager weigh up the hassle vs reward equation. Even as a lowly line pilot with nearly 30 years in, I am counting the days until I can bail. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate BA is one of the best places to be in civil aviation;it’s just that I recognise that civil aviation is not the place to be anymore.......

[Eddie_Crane]

Originally Posted by RexBanner

The question is how can we force Cruz out?

just need the "Like" button now...

[RexBanner]

By Cruz I also meant Walsh in tandem. Mind you as a Hammer I am feeling particularly militant right now.

[P24BA]

Stephen Riley does have morals - and a sense of what is right &, more importantly, safe. He jumped/was pushed because he wouldn't sign off on outsourcing ALL training. He's not the first to put what's best for safety above what's best for himself. Garry Copeland did the same last year. As 'Managing Director Combined Operations' he was the 'Accountable Manager' and the legal buck stopped with him. When he asked IAG for money to do what he considered to be essential safety related work they refused. He jumped as well. There are some good guys around - but every day fewer!!

[stormin norman]

And the new DFo is .....................?

[wiggy]

No news as yet.

Rumours of a reorg at the top of Flight Ops with announcements as to who is doing what by the end of the week (perhaps).

[bex88]

I thought Klaus had appointed himself to the role

[wiggy]

Originally Posted by bex88

I thought Klaus had appointed himself to the role

He has, but as I understand it only on a temporarily basis (there has to be a DFO/company chief pilot etc) until such time as the candidates bidding to replace SR have gone through whatever process is involved and a replacement has been selected and named.

[bex88]

Ahh yes it’s not supposed to look like a dictatorship 😎 You’re probably right having re read the FAN

[RexBanner]

I’ve heard it from a source very, very close to the meeting in question that SR was indeed sacked. With regards to the outsourcing of training, (correct me if I’m wrong but) if AC and KG wanted to take such a course they could quite easily impose it without the say so or agreement of SR.

Interesting timing that NS just happened to leave her post in quick succession to SR. Could it be mere coincidence or is it indicative that there has been a huge manpower cock up (allegedly at least 400 pilots short at the mo) leading to heads rolling.

[bex88]

660 hours for the rolling year 🤫

[wiggy]

Originally Posted by RexBanner

.... Could it be mere coincidence or is it indicative that there has been a huge manpower cock up (allegedly at least 400 pilots short at the mo) leading to heads rolling.

I’m not sure about the reasons for all the movement that has gone on (IMHO one of the “transfers” is more of a sideways move than downwards) but as far as the DoFO is concerned,..yes I agree...my sources have that as being a consequence of manpower numbers (again) rather than anything to do with the training empire.