Retirement Age for Pilots
It'll also be interesting to see how many people stay beyond 65 if/when this increase comes about.
While I haven't seen any data, empirically, not everyone who can stay to 65 does.
If increasing the max age doesn't produce many more pilots remaining in the system, it's much ado about nothing...and solves almost nothing. Only time will tell.
It's going to ruffle some junior feathers though.
P.S. Found this spot of data by a DL pilot who went through one month of data to see what the attrition looks like (my kinda geek !). Without LOTS more, it really doesn't tell the whole story but it's something:
From the January seniority list to the February seniority list we lost a total of 40 pilots.
22 went to age 65
4 were over age 64 but less than 65
3 were new hires (less than a year)
11 were between age 51 and 62 (4 were SIC outs)
Basically 26 out of 37 went to age 65 last month.
While I haven't seen any data, empirically, not everyone who can stay to 65 does.
If increasing the max age doesn't produce many more pilots remaining in the system, it's much ado about nothing...and solves almost nothing. Only time will tell.
It's going to ruffle some junior feathers though.
P.S. Found this spot of data by a DL pilot who went through one month of data to see what the attrition looks like (my kinda geek !). Without LOTS more, it really doesn't tell the whole story but it's something:
From the January seniority list to the February seniority list we lost a total of 40 pilots.
22 went to age 65
4 were over age 64 but less than 65
3 were new hires (less than a year)
11 were between age 51 and 62 (4 were SIC outs)
Basically 26 out of 37 went to age 65 last month.
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Why does it have to be a secret at this point ? I'd expect the Federalies to be shouting it from the rooftops to show everyone how they've saved the airlines from doom.
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It's the UK - everything is secret until announced by a Govt. Minister
just look at "Yes Minister/prime Minister" - the civil service prefer a quiet life to talking to the press.......... and God Forbid, any peon.
just look at "Yes Minister/prime Minister" - the civil service prefer a quiet life to talking to the press.......... and God Forbid, any peon.
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Well, can you say if your source is in government or industry ?
Is there a projected announce date ?
I've Googled around and checked with my government source; neither had any knowledge of this announcement.
I'm surprised something like this could be kept secret.
Well, can you say if your source is in government or industry ?
Is there a projected announce date ?
I've Googled around and checked with my government source; neither had any knowledge of this announcement.
I'm surprised something like this could be kept secret.
As the late 411a said, there is nothing more grotesque then seeing someone flying at 70 or more
At least 68years 11months won't allow that. One American Airline, who shall remain nameless, had 2 hosties over 70.
At least 68years 11months won't allow that. One American Airline, who shall remain nameless, had 2 hosties over 70.
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There are others so traumatised that they would sit in full uniform, under the stairs, eating a cardboard meal on their knees watching the electricity meter, gas meter, water meter and checking the fuse box every so often.
Others discovered there's a whole new world out there and lived a longer & happier retirement.
Others discovered there's a whole new world out there and lived a longer & happier retirement.
Avoid imitations
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There are others so traumatised that they would sit in full uniform, under the stairs, eating a cardboard meal on their knees watching the electricity meter, gas meter, water meter and checking the fuse box every so often.
Others discovered there's a whole new world out there and lived a longer & happier retirement.
Others discovered there's a whole new world out there and lived a longer & happier retirement.
Why didn't I and quite a lot of others save enough to retire "early"?
The 9.5% mortgage rate which increased to 15% just after I'd signed the contract to buy our first home didn't help. That sudden increase (mid 1980s for those still in nappies back then) actually put us below the breadline, as a junior military officer. I reckon there's more than a few youngsters eager to complain about older generation folk "taking their jobs" who will see things very differently once the mortgage rates start to increase, which they undoubtedly will. Regrettable all round, but life is a big competition, despite what some state schools chose to teach.
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There are others so traumatised that they would sit in full uniform, under the stairs, eating a cardboard meal on their knees watching the electricity meter, gas meter, water meter and checking the fuse box every so often.
Others discovered there's a whole new world out there and lived a longer & happier retirement.
Others discovered there's a whole new world out there and lived a longer & happier retirement.
D@mn! I forgot that the regulators won't allow that. You have to get heaved out of the door at some or other number of some sort... age, or some other 'just a number' thing like that. What was it? 'Some people need to be saved from themselves' or some old 'nanny state' thing like that.
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The 9.5% mortgage rate ...
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What ??
Pushing it back to 60 ? OMG...why is FAA so obsessed with age limits. Here in Oz, you can fly as long as you want, if you pass their medicals (and they are stringent). Ageism is alive and well in the US, it seems
If USA adopted the same policy, there goes away half the shortage problem.
If USA adopted the same policy, there goes away half the shortage problem.
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Pushing it back to 60 ? OMG...why is FAA so obsessed with age limits. Here in Oz, you can fly as long as you want, if you pass their medicals (and they are stringent). Ageism is alive and well in the US, it seems
If USA adopted the same policy, there goes away half the shortage problem.
If USA adopted the same policy, there goes away half the shortage problem.
“using case study work that is being performed by member carrier ASL Airlines Hungary. ASL Airlines Hungary is working with the Hungarian CAA and Hungarian aeromedical specialist Pharma Flight”
The Euro Regional airline lobbyists dug up an airline in Hungary, and then paid a specialist called Pharma; to tell them what they want to hear. Aided by the august members of the Hungarian CAA. Sounds totally legit
It also sounds like the ERA goes to the same conferences as the U.S. RAA.