Easyjet pilot issues
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Easyjet pilot issues
French pilots are claiming easyJet is risking passenger and crew safety by scheduling too many flights.
Captains are being pressed into flying more hours than they are legally allowed and face intimidation if they refuse, the pilots’ union says.
In an open letter to the company’s main shareholder, Stelios Haji-Ioannou, the union says the flight schedule is “unrealistic” and has sparked numerous delays and last-minute cancellations.
“A red line has been crossed and we are very shocked,” Arnaud Wiplier, president of the easyJet section of the Syndicat National des Pilotes de Ligne (SNPL), said. “The airline has eyes bigger than its stomach; the schedules are not possible.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-french-pilots
Captains are being pressed into flying more hours than they are legally allowed and face intimidation if they refuse, the pilots’ union says.
In an open letter to the company’s main shareholder, Stelios Haji-Ioannou, the union says the flight schedule is “unrealistic” and has sparked numerous delays and last-minute cancellations.
“A red line has been crossed and we are very shocked,” Arnaud Wiplier, president of the easyJet section of the Syndicat National des Pilotes de Ligne (SNPL), said. “The airline has eyes bigger than its stomach; the schedules are not possible.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-french-pilots
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The European Transport Workers Federation, which in aviation mainly covers cabin crew , were very much in favour of EASA FTL, despite the pilot groups , especially Balpa and UK research on fatigue ,being against it. Are we beginning to see a wholesale rejection of them and the fly until you drop business model across Easa land? I certainly hope so.
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According to the union, there are been threats (verbally, by phone) from the management, to force captains into going into discretion.
This is now all over the french news, so I wonder: did the management gain more by bullying crews and saving a few flights from cancellation, than they lost in PR and damage to the brand?
This is now all over the french news, so I wonder: did the management gain more by bullying crews and saving a few flights from cancellation, than they lost in PR and damage to the brand?
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What's the difference between easyJet and Air France?
Flight 447. Enough said.
Flight 447. Enough said.
EasyJet do not do red eye trips, they do not have 3 man operations crossing ITCZs in LH aircraft with the most senior pilot being allowed to rest for up to 4 hours. This is a totally different kind of flying and the EasyJet machine would break at the first sight of having to afford crew a decent schedule involving night stops.
To make a career sustainable at EasyJet pilots are turning to 50%. "Nuff said"
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Especially when a base captain has sent an email to two flight deck who refused to operate into a day off of being "unprofessional" and were "expected" to.
I understand the matter has been sent to the relevant Union.
I understand the matter has been sent to the relevant Union.
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What are you saying here. That easyJet should continue this slave labour like abuse because they've not had an accident yet and are therefore the safer operation?
EasyJet do not do red eye trips, they do not have 3 man operations crossing ITCZs in LH aircraft with the most senior pilot being allowed to rest for up to 4 hours. This is a totally different kind of flying and the EasyJet machine would break at the first sight of having to afford crew a decent schedule involving night stops.
To make a career sustainable at EasyJet pilots are turning to 50%. "Nuff said"
EasyJet do not do red eye trips, they do not have 3 man operations crossing ITCZs in LH aircraft with the most senior pilot being allowed to rest for up to 4 hours. This is a totally different kind of flying and the EasyJet machine would break at the first sight of having to afford crew a decent schedule involving night stops.
To make a career sustainable at EasyJet pilots are turning to 50%. "Nuff said"
Show me an easyJet pilot who landed half way down the runway in wet and windy wxr conditions and took 12 seconds to apply reverse thrust? Flight 358.
In fact, AF have their very own page on Wikipedia for accidents and incidents. That's how many they have had! Most are due to pilot error.
easyJet don't even have an accidents and incidents section on Wikipedia.
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Especially when a base captain has sent an email to two flight deck who refused to operate into a day off of being "unprofessional" and were "expected" to
That guy never had a problem using discretion occasionally or working into a day off with a smile.
So Company how many times has this happened to these Pilots?
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So what? Show me an easyJet pilot who has pulled back on the sidestick for nearly 4 minutes during a high altitude stall? Flight 447.
Show me an easyJet pilot who landed half way down the runway in wet and windy wxr conditions and took 12 seconds to apply reverse thrust? Flight 358.
In fact, AF have their very own page on Wikipedia for accidents and incidents. That's how many they have had! Most are due to pilot error.
easyJet don't even have an accidents and incidents section on Wikipedia.
Show me an easyJet pilot who landed half way down the runway in wet and windy wxr conditions and took 12 seconds to apply reverse thrust? Flight 358.
In fact, AF have their very own page on Wikipedia for accidents and incidents. That's how many they have had! Most are due to pilot error.
easyJet don't even have an accidents and incidents section on Wikipedia.
https://www.aeroinside.com/item/5457/easyjet-a320-at-paphos-on-jan-7th-2015-alpha-floor-activation-on-approach
Luckily in normal law this time.
But this is off topic. Today's topic is EZY has hit the french news with:
A pilot on drugs,
Captains forced to fly overlimit.
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As i understand it . There is a new policy in Easyjet . If you refuse discretion, you will get a phone call from the duty pilot manager to "help you with your decision making " that will be followed with a Non flying suspension and a trip to the Chief Pilots office .
Sad times for what was once a very sensible pilot employer
Sad times for what was once a very sensible pilot employer
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No Base Captain would say that in writing, would he / she?
It would be forwarded to the respective union / CAA and they would have to both explain and retract the comments.
How is not exceeding a legal limit, placed there for safety purposes, in any way "unprofessional"??
It would be forwarded to the respective union / CAA and they would have to both explain and retract the comments.
How is not exceeding a legal limit, placed there for safety purposes, in any way "unprofessional"??
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As i understand it . There is a new policy in Easyjet . If you refuse discretion, you will get a phone call from the duty pilot manager to "help you with your decision making " that will be followed with a Non flying suspension and a trip to the Chief Pilots office .
Sad times for what was once a very sensible pilot employer
Sad times for what was once a very sensible pilot employer
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Oh no it isn't , maybe you just don't know about it yet ...... i can assure you it is and worse .
Maybe career ending for some.
This is a new policy and the buck stops i am led to believe at the desk of the ex Wizzair Chief Pilot.
Anyway , how would you know what going on at your base with every individual unless you are the BC ?
Perhaps you should ask someone in BALPA cc , they may tell you something you didn't want to hear , sadly a once reasonable pragmatic approach has given way to something else .
Im told this was the method by which Wizzair pilot were encouraged to use discretion .
Maybe career ending for some.
This is a new policy and the buck stops i am led to believe at the desk of the ex Wizzair Chief Pilot.
Anyway , how would you know what going on at your base with every individual unless you are the BC ?
Perhaps you should ask someone in BALPA cc , they may tell you something you didn't want to hear , sadly a once reasonable pragmatic approach has given way to something else .
Im told this was the method by which Wizzair pilot were encouraged to use discretion .