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Worth noting any aspiring Virgin pilot applicants.
At present many problems with VS crewing. Ongoing non resolved Industrial Action by some Virgin pilots, are causing day to day crew shortages, and continual rostering disruption. BALPA members supporting a viable operation at the moment preventing further losses to the Brand, or Delta losing interest.
On the Airbus fleet last minute roster changes, days off disruption, some even contacted en route to work or on arrival, makes for a consequential less than stress free flight deck atmosphere.
Multiple consecutive two pilot Atlantic nightstops, exacerbated by lack of dual qualified crew on A330/340, leading to fatigue and high short-term sickness, hence crew shortage.
Apparently there is very little support from Flight Crew Management,who are largely uncontactable.
At present many problems with VS crewing. Ongoing non resolved Industrial Action by some Virgin pilots, are causing day to day crew shortages, and continual rostering disruption. BALPA members supporting a viable operation at the moment preventing further losses to the Brand, or Delta losing interest.
On the Airbus fleet last minute roster changes, days off disruption, some even contacted en route to work or on arrival, makes for a consequential less than stress free flight deck atmosphere.
Multiple consecutive two pilot Atlantic nightstops, exacerbated by lack of dual qualified crew on A330/340, leading to fatigue and high short-term sickness, hence crew shortage.
Apparently there is very little support from Flight Crew Management,who are largely uncontactable.
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I work for Virgin on the Airbus. I am dual 330/340. It is certainly busy at the moment but my roster is stable. I do not believe that it is any where near as bad as described a few posts up
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Not bitter at all! Just passing info to possible VS joiners of ongoing problems being experienced by pilots in the "other Union" who are working normally. They are disproportionately being affected by pilots "Just flying the Roster"
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Refusing to take any changes to your published roster, due weather disruption, aircraft substitution, sickness etc.etc., which happens in day to day ops in most airlines.
A polite phrase for Working to Rule in dispute parlance.
A polite phrase for Working to Rule in dispute parlance.
Just to be clear, from someone who works for the company, what you hear from a mate and what is actually happening can differ.
Is the work to rule causing problems? No. When there are open time flights are people volunteering to cover? Yes (and getting paid handsomely - including some from the PPU) Are we short of pilots? Yes. Are we actively recruiting? Yes. Is VAA a good company to work for? Yes. What's does the future hold - Who knows? Are there people queuing around the corner to join? Yes.
The biggest question you want to ask is - who in there right mind would ever want to run an airline?
Is the work to rule causing problems? No. When there are open time flights are people volunteering to cover? Yes (and getting paid handsomely - including some from the PPU) Are we short of pilots? Yes. Are we actively recruiting? Yes. Is VAA a good company to work for? Yes. What's does the future hold - Who knows? Are there people queuing around the corner to join? Yes.
The biggest question you want to ask is - who in there right mind would ever want to run an airline?
Champagne anyone...?
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Cessnapete. That explains it.
I, like superstall, do work for Virgin. I’m going to stick my neck out and say that pretty much everything you’ve written about our company is
I, like superstall, do work for Virgin. I’m going to stick my neck out and say that pretty much everything you’ve written about our company is
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For those of us that got the 'please be patient email', anyone heard/ know anything about a likely timeline, I know things can change on a daily basis . . .
50 Monarch Pilots being taken by VS, with courses starting immanently. Does that fulfil there recruitment numbers for Flight Deck?
50 Monarch Pilots being taken by VS, with courses starting immanently. Does that fulfil there recruitment numbers for Flight Deck?
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Did anyone get a reply from Virgin after you apply ? Or they don't bother to give a reply and have too many qualified applicants, specially with the collapse of Monarch ?
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My understanding of the situation at Virgin is this, anyone operating out of LHR will have noticed 3 787s parked with engine covers on. This is apparently because RR have made engines with turbine blades that melt, as a result 4 or 5 of Virgins 787s are going under "deep" maintenance for a few months. To cover the work load they bought 4 330s from Air Berlin hence the sudden need for 50 Airbus pilots with immediate start dates. The question in my mind is what happens when the 787s come back in to service? Will Virgin expand by 4 aircraft because if they don't they will be vastly over crewed!
