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Old 10th March 2017 | 10:19
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UK pilots loosing out

Anecdotal evidence sugests that British pilots are having a hard time of it securing jobs in
Euroland.
No reasons are given post interview , but it does appear that the brexit uncertainty is casting a shadow over CAAlicence holders (and none residents of the ex uk european community) obtaining employment.

This will no doubt be an increasing trend once Brexit is triggered and the potential change in customs union is not addressed.
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Old 10th March 2017 | 10:36
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It was absolutely inevitable that UK citizens would start to have these difficulties in securing employment in most industries across the EU. We voted for it so no one to blame but ourselves. Roll on the good times.......... Ho Ho Ho.
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Old 10th March 2017 | 10:38
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You might 66 if eJ and others split the company into European and UK divisions.
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Old 10th March 2017 | 13:58
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Are you guys sure about this I believe you got all the wrong perception. Without knowing any statistics there must be loads more British pilots flying in Europe than Europeans flying in the UK just think about Ryanair, Wizzair, Easyjet, Norwegian etc.
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Old 10th March 2017 | 14:02
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Dang, I hate it when those pilots "loose" out....
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Old 10th March 2017 | 14:12
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atr, some people object to what they imagine are "pedants" losing off like that...
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Old 10th March 2017 | 17:41
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Is it because once they get a job in Euroland their never happy until they can return to the "Island"
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Old 10th March 2017 | 17:45
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Thank god for Norwegian Long Haul choosing Gatwick . At least they know their loyality to the UK will be rewarded by employing heaps of commuters paying zero uk tax. Nice.
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Old 10th March 2017 | 19:54
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Originally Posted by JaxofMarlow
It was absolutely inevitable that UK citizens would start to have these difficulties in securing employment in most industries across the EU. We voted for it so no one to blame but ourselves. Roll on the good times.......... Ho Ho Ho.
I would imagine all those British pilots at KLM, Air France, Lufhanser, Alitalia, SAS, Iberia, TAP and LOT are quaking in their boots (If you can find one, let me know how they feel). We have never been welcome Brexit or not.
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Old 11th March 2017 | 05:23
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Wouldn't say you are not welcome, flew with lots of brits in in Italy and always enjoyed it, but most of you don't really try to integrate and learn the language. Most of the foreigners in Italy learned the language, like myself, brits usually don't make a lot of effort.
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Old 11th March 2017 | 05:47
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Personally, I put it down to the UK pilots failing the English tests during the selection process.
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Old 11th March 2017 | 11:41
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Interesting version the otherway around...german pilots hired by Easyjet need to convert to a CAA licence. All perfectly reasonable, except currently this is allegedly not possible because the CAA wants medical records the Germans say they cannot provide. So much for a single licence and with brexit things could get worse!
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Old 11th March 2017 | 12:24
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With the Brexit this could get better, when british pilots need to convert to an EASA license
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Old 11th March 2017 | 14:18
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Lederhosen you just redo an initial class 1 in uk and problem solved.
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Old 11th March 2017 | 15:03
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Good to know, thanks for the tip....although just do the initial class one makes it sound simpler and probably cheaper than I am sure it is.
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Old 11th March 2017 | 22:10
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Plenty in Dublin.
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Old 12th March 2017 | 06:31
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This is the typical divisive non factual rubbish that got us into this Brexit mess in the first place. Tons of Brits flying for easyJet all over Europe, FACT. Getting a job in BA (or easyJet for that matter) without a high level of english is impossible. Likewise you cannot work for lufthansa if you don't speak german. I am not sure how is it any harder (or unfair) for a Brit to learn another language than for a non Brit to learn english.

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Old 14th March 2017 | 15:53
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Plenty of Brits flying in EU !

DHL Leipzig

Lufthansa CityLine/Eurowings (DLR used to do tests in English until very recently)

Voltea

Air Contractors Eire

Aer Lingus

RYR

EZY

etc, etc......

Had interview with SAS/Cimber in July 2016 (before they were taken over by Cityjet) - one of the questions was about how Brexit might affect employment terms.....

Even US-EU/UK Open Skies agreement likely to be affected: Brexit could lead to doors closing on Open Skies | ATW Editor's Blog
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