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Lol.... If you have the same career and does the upgrade at the same time (which you have to assume in order to have any numbers to play with), then the gross salery in Scandi is waaaaay higher than Ryanair, even in the remote chance of working close to 900 a year in Ryan, especially the period as an FO. And that is not to mention the pension scheme in Scandiland...
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SAIL has now 6 a/c and plan to have 9 in total.
I have a feeling they will not struggle to get crew for such a small amount of a/c, considering that many drivers will be willing to take pay cut to be based in LHR or AGP with permanent roster pattern.
I have a feeling they will not struggle to get crew for such a small amount of a/c, considering that many drivers will be willing to take pay cut to be based in LHR or AGP with permanent roster pattern.
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Clicking through the various threads this morning reading updates an ad popped up from Small Planet offering €12.200 -15.500 “net” for “training instructors”. You know things are desperate when even the low ballers are starting to raise the bets like this.
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Indeed this is a floating base not in Europe but world wide. It means that they will send guys where no body wants to go such as Bhutan, Saudi Arabia, India, Combodia etc... In winter time do not expect the 20/10 pattern and most probably more likely 6 months in those countries...
If you want a fair comparaison ask Small Planet their salaries details for a fix base.... Then you will realize that SAIL is not that bad...
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It was a general statement about pay being offered from my side, not about necessarily comparing them in detail. If they didn’t have to they would’ve never offered these salaries.
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Lolo, I think you may had missed CP's point. He's saying that low-ballers raising the stakes is a sign of trade-winds changing. I agree.
Makes no difference the SPA sheet is just hype (you were probably too exhausted to add "it's GROSS" to your list). It's about what made them create one.
And SAIL feels the same pressure (email about 2 hrs ago):
Let's call the above 6000 EUR for 5/4/5/13. If we think about it from a scheduler's perspective, observing the EASA mandatory no-duty days, with a bit of Excel magic: that's exactly 50% part-time.
After Emirates no longer attractive? After MON and AIB gone? I wish what I see is true.
Let's hope all the methods of squeezing out money from the new cadets and line-training schemes are already exhausted, and our young future colleagues will not be made to pay for the above.
Makes no difference the SPA sheet is just hype (you were probably too exhausted to add "it's GROSS" to your list). It's about what made them create one.
And SAIL feels the same pressure (email about 2 hrs ago):
Originally Posted by Work Pattern
- Proposed roster pattern of 5 days on, followed by 4 days off, 5 days on, followed by 13 days off.
- Staff Travel on SAS Network available after 6-month probation
Originally Posted by Payment
Average monthly Gross salary based on 52hrs- £6,104.25
- Basic Salary – GBP£4,665.00 gross per month (Based on 30 b/h per
- month)
- Overtime per b/h – GBP£45.33 per b/h over 30
- Overnight Allowance – GBP£51
- Home Standby Allowance (should you fly) – GBP£125.00
- Airport Standby Allowance (paid for duty) - GBP£125.00
- Productivity Pay (Working day off pay Allowance): GBP£518.50** Trade Day
- SPA obviously did their research (mostly imitating without understanding is what they do), and shot an advertisement of 10.000 EUR on 20/10 for 85 hrs - to catch the beholder's eye.
- SAIL admits being ready to spend 12000 EUR for 1x full-time LHR based pilot.
After Emirates no longer attractive? After MON and AIB gone? I wish what I see is true.
Let's hope all the methods of squeezing out money from the new cadets and line-training schemes are already exhausted, and our young future colleagues will not be made to pay for the above.
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Lolo, I think you may had missed CP's point. He's saying that low-ballers raising the stakes is a sign of trade-winds changing. I agree.
Makes no difference the SPA sheet is just hype (you were probably too exhausted to add "it's GROSS" to your list). It's about what made them do it.
And SAIL feels the same pressure (email about 2 hrs ago):
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Makes no difference the SPA sheet is just hype (you were probably too exhausted to add "it's GROSS" to your list). It's about what made them do it.
And SAIL feels the same pressure (email about 2 hrs ago):
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Only half a speed-brake
Yep. Add China on exactly double the SAIL cash for 3:3 rotation. Multiple employers.
But keeping the thread on SAIL: is it me or could that 5/3/5/13 for 6000 EUR create some good resonance with Wizzair westerners Captains?
But keeping the thread on SAIL: is it me or could that 5/3/5/13 for 6000 EUR create some good resonance with Wizzair westerners Captains?
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Sorry Raski!
I am thinking of the big picture! For everyone,
How can I put this,,,,?
With Norwegians future secured by the little Irishman , the European market has gotten a lot better the last week.
Pilots voting in RYR. With their feet, Fast . For good reasons!!!
I am thinking of the big picture! For everyone,
How can I put this,,,,?
With Norwegians future secured by the little Irishman , the European market has gotten a lot better the last week.
Pilots voting in RYR. With their feet, Fast . For good reasons!!!
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Yes.
According to a pilot that flies for SAIL, 15 out of 58 pilots are leaving or has already left. 25% of contracted staff leaving as soon as something else turns up?!
Will you be able to start the base in Malaga?
According to a pilot that flies for SAIL, 15 out of 58 pilots are leaving or has already left. 25% of contracted staff leaving as soon as something else turns up?!
Will you be able to start the base in Malaga?
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recruitment
CAE recruitment ads seems to not have been updated since mid-April. And the screening dates are old now. Is SAIL finally in line with their needs and have their crews in place? Is Malaga starting up now?