Ryanair UK DEC contract pay?
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Ryanair UK DEC contract pay?
Does anyone have or willing to share accurate info on what a DEC UK based captain would now take home?
Net.
Pension Contribution.
Extras for Sim costs etc as I assume its still the £5000/€5000 allowance to cover your hotels etc so still slightly out of your own pocket.
I also assume car park pass's are still at your own cost etc.
Thanks.
Net.
Pension Contribution.
Extras for Sim costs etc as I assume its still the £5000/€5000 allowance to cover your hotels etc so still slightly out of your own pocket.
I also assume car park pass's are still at your own cost etc.
Thanks.
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From: 60 north
Old BF contract.
Hi
You have not done any contract work before, have You!?
Firstly , the old Brookfield contract is 145 euro per flown planed block hr.
Minus 4.5 for sim recurrent, is 140,50 euro. That is it, full stop . punktum .nada,nichts,,kein geldt,ikkje eit satans øre, nothing more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Sorry, wrong : 20 euro per block when u are sent to Marrakesh for 2 months.
It is simple.You fly, you get pay. No fly , no pay! NOTHING, EVER EVER EVER.
Sorry , wrong again: One useless winter coat per 5 year!
That is IT.
Welcome to us professional contractors , Enjoy!?
BSU
You have not done any contract work before, have You!?
Firstly , the old Brookfield contract is 145 euro per flown planed block hr.
Minus 4.5 for sim recurrent, is 140,50 euro. That is it, full stop . punktum .nada,nichts,,kein geldt,ikkje eit satans øre, nothing more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Sorry, wrong : 20 euro per block when u are sent to Marrakesh for 2 months.
It is simple.You fly, you get pay. No fly , no pay! NOTHING, EVER EVER EVER.
Sorry , wrong again: One useless winter coat per 5 year!
That is IT.
Welcome to us professional contractors , Enjoy!?
BSU
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I was with Brookfield for 7 years before leaving Ryanair
I am talking about full time Ryanair contracts as DEC which are on offer now
Thanks
p.s I never went to Marrakesh once. Even as a floter on 5/5
I am talking about full time Ryanair contracts as DEC which are on offer now
Thanks
p.s I never went to Marrakesh once. Even as a floter on 5/5
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From: 60 north
CONTRACT vs EMPLOYMENT
Zero
If You are interested in Ryanair direct employment , You must state that clearly.
Let me for other eager aviators that are less versed in the hell it is to be a contractor, do some instructing this early morning (used to charge 50 € per each, first one free)
RYR has ca 320 ac and ca 3500 pilots and need at least 600 pilots next 12 months, Peter B can confirm this . Mind u he buggered of to Malaysian .
Some new fo and most cpt are now direct employed RYR considering new EU rules.This is due to the fact that the old contractors are considered fiexed employee (5 yrs plus). and the new after ca 1 yr.
RYR see the remote chanse of a class action case from old and new contractors that are stuck with large taxbills, no pension, no real sosial security etc etc.
Brookfield are scaled down from ca 2500 to less then 1000 and whatdoYoucallthem takes the ballance .
Coffee is ready
Good luck
BSU
If You are interested in Ryanair direct employment , You must state that clearly.
Let me for other eager aviators that are less versed in the hell it is to be a contractor, do some instructing this early morning (used to charge 50 € per each, first one free)
RYR has ca 320 ac and ca 3500 pilots and need at least 600 pilots next 12 months, Peter B can confirm this . Mind u he buggered of to Malaysian .
Some new fo and most cpt are now direct employed RYR considering new EU rules.This is due to the fact that the old contractors are considered fiexed employee (5 yrs plus). and the new after ca 1 yr.
RYR see the remote chanse of a class action case from old and new contractors that are stuck with large taxbills, no pension, no real sosial security etc etc.
Brookfield are scaled down from ca 2500 to less then 1000 and whatdoYoucallthem takes the ballance .
Coffee is ready
Good luck
BSU
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From: Stansted
Not been a bog standard line captain for a good few years now, but as a TRE total take home with half decent months sector pay is about £7500.
That obviously includes all the increments for training and the pilots allowance which is £6k and after pension comes off.
Take off a grand or so for line captain (pure guess but won't be far off I assume)
If its less don't shoot the messenger.
That obviously includes all the increments for training and the pilots allowance which is £6k and after pension comes off.
Take off a grand or so for line captain (pure guess but won't be far off I assume)
If its less don't shoot the messenger.
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Not been a bog standard line captain for a good few years now, but as a TRE total take home with half decent months sector pay is about £7500.
That obviously includes all the increments for training and the pilots allowance which is £6k and after pension comes off.
Take off a grand or so for line captain (pure guess but won't be far off I assume)
If its less don't shoot the messenger.
That obviously includes all the increments for training and the pilots allowance which is £6k and after pension comes off.
Take off a grand or so for line captain (pure guess but won't be far off I assume)
If its less don't shoot the messenger.
Captain in UK base (non-STN) for under a decade, take home pay in current account after taxes and pension contributions ~£3,750 with a fortnight later sector pay/annual leave allowance ranging £1,000-£2,500 depending on productivity, days off worked, block hours in month and/or holiday.
Work it out in busy summer months ~£6,000+ and winter months ~£5,000- provided not too many standby duties on roster (they're unpaid as not block hours).
Training is where the £££ is in Ryanair, but not everyone is allowed (even when qualified) to become part of this "elite".
If you're not yet a Captain, my advice on career progression would certainly be to try and become SFI prior to your upgrade process, thus opening the door for future LTC/TRI/TRE route. Once Captain, you'll find out the hard way that usually ex-SFI's are used for LTC/TRI/TRE requests from the company, even if you have >4x the experience in hours and years in aviation.
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Nothing 'elite' about being in training in FR;
1. More roster changes than average line capt
2. 99% of rostered flights training flights
3. 50% will cadets!
4. More than average 4 sectors days cos sectors count for training in FR not hours.
5. Overall working my tits off and not paid enough imho.
1. More roster changes than average line capt
2. 99% of rostered flights training flights
3. 50% will cadets!
4. More than average 4 sectors days cos sectors count for training in FR not hours.
5. Overall working my tits off and not paid enough imho.
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Thanks for the info
I am currently left seat and I left Ryanair from the left seat also.
Reason for wanting to return is to go down the LTC TRI TRE route.
I just need to weigh up the difference in time to achieve these things with current employer vs Ryanair and then the cash element to see if it's worth the hassle and potential days away from home to not wait it out where I am.
I am currently left seat and I left Ryanair from the left seat also.
Reason for wanting to return is to go down the LTC TRI TRE route.
I just need to weigh up the difference in time to achieve these things with current employer vs Ryanair and then the cash element to see if it's worth the hassle and potential days away from home to not wait it out where I am.
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From: EU
RYR Ltc elite,
This must be one of the most incredibile things I've ever heard.......
Say mach number, what do you mean 50% cadet...get out STN and you'll find out that's 100% cadets!!!
Money is in the training dep??!! Come on even TO tells you don,t do it for the money, during the first day of LTC course!!
Plus all the rest of the !!!! you have to put up with which is not even worth to mention here
This must be one of the most incredibile things I've ever heard.......
Say mach number, what do you mean 50% cadet...get out STN and you'll find out that's 100% cadets!!!
Money is in the training dep??!! Come on even TO tells you don,t do it for the money, during the first day of LTC course!!
Plus all the rest of the !!!! you have to put up with which is not even worth to mention here
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From: Stansted
"50% cadets" - happy to stand corrected probably nearer 90% - been spending too much time in a box on legs.
Oh and not to forget the other 10% 'the unmentionables' - OCC Capts!
How could I forget them.
Oh and not to forget the other 10% 'the unmentionables' - OCC Capts!
How could I forget them.
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From: EU
One Captain I know in a UK base who is just a regular non training line captain takes home about £5-6k per month. This is what he told me a while ago and I didn't ask for exact figures so keep that in mind.
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My colleague that recently had an interview was advised the UK direct employment contract worked out to about 63k plus the supplement 6000 less tax plus any overflight payments,all in all 74k allowing for tax this works out just under £4300 net after Uk Tax and NI. He declined the position as the UK base he wanted was full and the 2nd and 3rd choices were not guaranteed. Didn't want to leap from frying pan to the fire!
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From: UK
Uk Lhs is £5-6k net
Lhs eu is like 120-140euro psbh
I think im correct in saying that the prospect of a UK ryr contract is what keeps many pilots hanging on in some of the less desireable bases on rubbish contracts.
ppjn says ryr uk cpt is £53k + £5k allowance plus £50psbh thats roughly £100k 5/4off too remember plus holiday pay plus some pension.
Lhs eu is like 120-140euro psbh
I think im correct in saying that the prospect of a UK ryr contract is what keeps many pilots hanging on in some of the less desireable bases on rubbish contracts.
ppjn says ryr uk cpt is £53k + £5k allowance plus £50psbh thats roughly £100k 5/4off too remember plus holiday pay plus some pension.
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From: Somerset
Sky job is spot on.
Net pay £3750 ish as I pay £500 gross pension.
Sector pay around £1700 net on average.
Year end P60 around £94,000 Gross.
And yes you pay for everything out of that, parking, uniform, LoL etc
Net pay £3750 ish as I pay £500 gross pension.
Sector pay around £1700 net on average.
Year end P60 around £94,000 Gross.
And yes you pay for everything out of that, parking, uniform, LoL etc