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Old 24th Jul 2015, 20:54
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ID90 offload

In Europe if you're accepted or confirmed on an ID ticket, do you then get the rights of a normal passenger if you're offloaded (accommodation, meals etc)?
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 21:28
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The short answer for staff travel is no in every airline that I have heard of. There maybe some that do but none that I know of.
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 23:33
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Nice idea, but availing yourself of the "compensation" is unlikely to endear yourself to your employer, or if on someone else's privileges . . . . (and it is after all a privilege, not a right ) likely to spell the end of a beautiful friendship (yours, or theirs with their employer ) when their employer asks WTF ?

Of course, Air Chance may see it differently, there is always "le exception" but, I think even they will now be a bit more strict about compensation for something you didn't pay the full price for
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 04:43
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Have anyone actually seen any guidelines on this?
Can it be because they are in fact responsible for accommodation and rebooking after you have been accepted and then a cancellation of the flight occur?
It may be wishful thinking, but on some airlines ID90 is not cheaper than, if you book a full fare flight from the airlines website.
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 06:00
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Just going back to the thread title of:
ID90 offload
On at least one European airline I know of you never, ever get "confirmed" status on an ID90 (Standby) ticket. You remain waitlisted, even at the gate and you don't get compensation if you're not accepted.

I guess it may be different for other airlines for ID90s, and/or on other forms of rebate tickets

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Old 25th Jul 2015, 08:07
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You can check "ID Agreements" on myIDTravel for the specific airline. The rules are quite complicated, depends on the airline, R1/R2 ticket, out station or home base, on board and accepted, diversion, enroute etc.

But in all cases no money compensation will ever be paid, however some airlines will absorb cost for hotel, transportation etc. as for normal passengers, but again, depends on the circumstances.
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Some airlines do, some airlines don't so depends on airline and country.
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If you are travelling on a Rebate or ID ticket you are effectively " standby", if they accept you and you board, then a whole bunch of "confirmed" passengers arrive you can be off-loaded, applies even to duty travel. Now, if you take off and the plane diverts you would normally be given the same privileges as any passenger as the airline has a duty of care, on the other hand, if you never got airborne and were simply off-loaded due to no seat, then in most cases you have no rights for compensation, they will simply put you on a wait list for the next flight and the accommodation is down to you. Normal passengers are subject to the delay compensation, but not ID travel.. in practice the gate staff will give you a food voucher if the flight is just delayed say 6 hrs, but not Hotac.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 07:52
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On two occasions I got boarded using staff standby tickets, flights got cancelled, and we got put up in a local hotel just like all the other passengers

We also get full first class amenities
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 08:06
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In Europe if you're accepted or confirmed on an ID ticket, do you then get the rights of a normal passenger if you're offloaded (accommodation, meals
etc)?
If this bothers you that much, why not just go loco, when you will almost certainly be paying less than the ID90 ticket anyway ( usually 90% of the full commercial fare). Any assumption that you will get compensated is likely to be wrong.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 08:44
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I had always understood that once you were in possession of a boarding card with a seat number on it , then you were classed as a passenger under the terms of the Warsaw convention. I have certainly claimed compensation for a delayed flight and numerous cases of delayed/lost baggage.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 09:49
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I have been banned from one UK airline complaints and whingers Facebook site for arguing against the pathetic compensation society we now live in and in particular EU261. Compensation is now set at €250 for a 3 hour delay even for a £39 ticket. The site I have been banned from even suggests taking your time disembarking a plane if it is already late to try to get past the 3 hour mark. Can even claim for delays following a bird strike for god sake. Now I find pilots claiming from their employer. I just give up.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 13:40
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If you are referring to me Jax, I would like to clarify that I was travelling as a Passenger, and may have paid up to 1200 Pounds for myself and my family for "rebated travel". Personally, I'd like to see delay compensation extended further to trains, buses and queuing in shops...
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I was referring to anyone who thinks it is right to claim compensation far in excess of the cost. Already have compensation for trains and it is linked to the cost of travel. Not a fan of compensation myself when the cause is outside the control of the company claimed against. I am yet to experience an occasion where I was late that I could have done anything about.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 15:41
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Regulation 261 Article 3:

3. This Regulation shall not apply to passengers travelling free of charge or at a reduced fare not available directly or indirectly to the public. However, it shall apply to passengers having tickets issued under a frequent flyer programme or other commercial programme by an air carrier or tour operator.
Some airlines might, but they are not required to by this regulation.
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