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Norwegian B787 - LGW based

Old 9th Jun 2015, 20:31
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Interesting we are now discussing tax rates for low earners in the NLH thread ! sums it up really.

Im pretty sure bonds will be paid up front before a type rating course commences. Otherwise a trainee could complete 95% then bail out and do the remaining simulator stuff himself. Not sure the point of this as its just a paper endorsement without flight time.

Ultimatly, Norwegian require a financial leverage allowing them to retain potential disgruntled pilots who may find its not quite the ball they were hoping for .
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Old 10th Jun 2015, 15:12
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Clearly, they don't want people to up and leg it after the investment in training.
A lot of people have used a ' bank guarantee letter ' I believe, but in the UK, it's an unknown idea - or it was when I spoke to HSBC
Old 10th Jun 2015, 16:37
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Why not treat people in a civilized manner instead, so they dont WANT to leave... Its just a thought, or more of a dream maybe.
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Old 10th Jun 2015, 20:30
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That is so last year.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 00:45
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Well, I don't think any airline doesn't bond except BA. And an acquaintance of mine left there after a year, thus proving the reason why airlines do bond ...
Old 11th Jun 2015, 00:52
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Plenty of airlines bond with a contract clause. Not many ask for cash to be seen upfront.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 01:01
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Bond?? This isn't a bond at NLH. A bond if only. That was also so last year.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 07:10
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a promissory note was also accepted by the contracting agency instead of "sending cash" upfront
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 11:09
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So last year indeed.

Rather like Norwegian’s US DOT, Foreign Air Carrier, Permit application, or was it the year before, it’s been so long now I can’t remember. An ultimate decision is sure to affect 787 recruitment or possible lay-offs! - how would that affect debt repayment of the 40K bond?

The Kjos “standing room only” (not enough chairs) Washington road shows, free ticket campaigns and cabin crew rally’s all seem to have stalled. One week Kjos arrogantly boasts to the US he does not need the Permit and the next, he is writing begging letters to DOT Secretary Foxx to ask for immediate Permit approval to provide US jobs. However, he conveniently does not disclose Norwegian's jobs do not comply with Article 17 of the current US EU Air Transport Agreement – ref links below:

"It really does not matter" - Kjos, DN news 4/29
- Vi kan fly til krampa tar oss med de tillatelsene vi har - DN.no

Kjos requests speedy resolution - DN news 6/3
Norwegian lokker med flere jobber mot USA-lisens - DN.no

Article 17 - "The opportunities created by the Agreement are not intended to undermine labor standards, or the labor-related rights and principles contained in the Parties' respective laws"
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 17:32
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Are there any reports currently available about NLH Lifestyle?
Like how many consecutive days off are possible from from experience (not guessing, actual Situation)?
Those expats who are based in LGW, do they rent a flat or just arrive the same day from somewhere or the day before and stay the night in LGW?
How many "cycles" are to be expected?
(A cycle in my understanding is for example: A Pairing like LGW-JFK-OSL-ORL-OSL-JFK-LGW)
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Old 12th Jun 2015, 18:08
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Did I miss something dear chap ? Am I released from my servitude....

Daedalus737, there's enough flying out of gatwick that W patterns only really apply now to the destinations that aren't served daily, such as Orlando.

3/4 of roster is gatwick, returning to gatwick .
Old 13th Jun 2015, 17:44
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Norwegian will be at the Paris airshow, rumour mill has it that an order for 20+ 787-9's will be announced......
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Old 13th Jun 2015, 21:50
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90000 per year for LHS, no doubt they can male a decent profit and order new planes to boot,

Paris ? Not a good place to order Boeings ...
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Old 13th Jun 2015, 21:53
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Its their new business model, buying and selling aircraft no messy requirements for pilots etc etc !
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Old 14th Jun 2015, 20:32
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I've decided not to deposit 30.000 with Norwegian and let the Dreamliner fly someone else. Social, isn't it?
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Old 15th Jun 2015, 06:45
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I did the same
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Old 15th Jun 2015, 07:12
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So I'm in the same situation, I have the opportunity to fly the 78 with NAS ....

Positives- good type rating and wide body experience

Negatives - lack of days off
Upgrade time from RCA to 'full' cpt

Mmmmm decisions decisions
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Old 15th Jun 2015, 07:40
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I will stay where I am too thanks.

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Old 15th Jun 2015, 20:38
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I may have mistaken you - apologies if I did - but I took it from the context of what we were talking about and your post that you viewed the NLH set up as a bond. If I mis read you, my apologies. If I did not, my point stands. Laying down a chunk of change is not a bond.
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Old 15th Jun 2015, 20:57
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Pot Noodle, have you tecently interviewed and been offered a poition with NLH? When did you apply? Im guessing not to the recent adverts?
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