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Old 9th Jul 2020, 13:43
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Interesting. I didn't see this coming until Q4 2020. Best of luck to everyone who will give it a shot! The less unemployed among our brethren, the better for everyone.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 16:37
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Could someone kindly share the details of the Captain package for the Abu Dhabi base?
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 20:49
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Flying widebody across the world and then being relegated to LCC operation narrow body, I bet the EK guys thought that would never happen !
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 21:09
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Originally Posted by Banana Joe View Post
Recruitment is open again. Well ahead than expected.
Only for Wizz Abu Dhabi. It simply means that they can not find enough people (even amongst the ones recently fired) who would take the sand with such poor T&Cs.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 21:27
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Training is starting again from 27th July. For the European bases they want to create a holding pool.

And I'm not surprised they can't find anybody for Abu Dhabi with those conditions. You just can't have a decent life on that package.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 22:31
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What about the conditions? Are they so bad? I thought they would send their own (willing) crews over there.


Would any of the fired crew be reinstated?
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 23:48
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Originally Posted by TBSC View Post
Only for Wizz Abu Dhabi. It simply means that they can not find enough people (even amongst the ones recently fired) who would take the sand with such poor T&Cs.
So, out of 265 pilots who were fired, they couldn't find 70 or so to sign up? Given the dire situation in the industry in the countries where most of said pilots come from, that's quite unexpected. With most Eastern European airlines being financially infirm even in the best of times and at the brink of a mass collapse right now and with the many locals who lost their jobs in Asia in the past months coming back home, it's hard to believe that people would be turning down a flying job en masse. Or were they never offered to take it in the first place? Was the invitation for assessment for Abu Dhabi for all 265/265 or just for some of them?
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 00:43
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Nothing new here guys, just nepotism at it's best: both DFO and Head of Training are ex-EK (hence the similar method of letting ppl go in both companies). They just wanna place their recently let go buddies. No one cares about the 265 pilots fired in April.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 00:51
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ View Post
So, out of 265 pilots who were fired, they couldn't find 70 or so to sign up? Given the dire situation in the industry in the countries where most of said pilots come from, that's quite unexpected. With most Eastern European airlines being financially infirm even in the best of times and at the brink of a mass collapse right now and with the many locals who lost their jobs in Asia in the past months coming back home, it's hard to believe that people would be turning down a flying job en masse. Or were they never offered to take it in the first place? Was the invitation for assessment for Abu Dhabi for all 265/265 or just for some of them?
What is your theory then? Do they hire as they have the relatively small base (3-6 aircraft) already covered but they want to spend their time with a bit of fake hiring?
Or they think they can cherry-pick the best EK 380 captains? Not much of them will stay around for long once presented with the numbers.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 08:26
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My theory is that a relatively small number of those fired in April were hand-picked for assessment and the rest were not considered at all. Many of them were or are in major conflict with the management, some are known to be suing the company either on grounds of their dismissal or for other matters.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 10:12
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will have plenty of pilots with A380 experience willing to fly a A320 in the desert 🐫 for 7000-8000Euros in short term.

Medium to Long term that is another history...
Let see what happen in 2021.

Also what it makes better a pilot that you donít know to be hired that a pilot that worked for you years and years... I think they should appericiate and reconsider to rehired most of the pilots fired. Only if you have a huge problem with the company, I mean something really serious then avoid that pilots.

but the rest generally speaking I saw the list and in my opinion most of them 90% I would say they are good people and proffesionals.
is stupid to avoid rehire a pilot because one day he had a bad day in the sim, an argue with a colleague, sick days and stuff like this...
we all are humans and if they think that taking external pilots they will not have such problem they are wrong!!

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Old 10th Jul 2020, 12:52
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ View Post
My theory is that a relatively small number of those fired in April were hand-picked for assessment and the rest were not considered at all. Many of them were or are in major conflict with the management, some are known to be suing the company either on grounds of their dismissal or for other matters.
I doubt that 20% of the crew were troublemakers. I know a lot of them as good people. If they were good enough to fly from Keflavik or Chisinau or Odessa or Skopje or Memmingen or Bodo or Trondheim or Turku in the winter the majority of them could have managed AUH somehow...
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 14:13
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Has anyone got the previous experience form to open? Just says loading........ on my application
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 14:19
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Try Chrome, think it said something about it being the best browser.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 23:21
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Pilots who were made redundant will have to do ATPL+Simulator assesment again together with psychological interview due to EASA regulation. If successful, they will get a job offer. They were told to have priority for applications.
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 01:19
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This company seem intent on pulling stunt after stunt.

First of all the letting go of 300 people. The announcing new aircraft deliveries. Then announcing 'new bases'. Now announcing all but a new airline and they're hiring for everything from cadet entry to rated commanders.

I wish to have no part to play in this charade and I do not envy those applying. What is happening is disgusting to be frank.
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 11:54
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Originally Posted by jadrolinija View Post
Pilots who were made redundant will have to do ATPL+Simulator assesment again together with psychological interview due to EASA regulation. If successful, they will get a job offer. They were told to have priority for applications.
What EASA regulation requires assessment of candidates to be held in any specific format? I thought it was down to company policy as to whether they will do a theoretical written exam, an HR interview, a sim screening, a chat with the Chief Pilot or a combination of the aforementioned. Maybe in the case of Wizz air it has something to do with insurance, i.e. only candidates who have passed this and that before signing a contract are insured to fly the aircraft?
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 12:00
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This is what was written in a "letter to pilots":

Q10) Do I need to undergo an assessment, like ATPL exam and simulator ride?

A10) Yes, all new hires must undergo the pilot recruitment process due to internal regulations
and from 15th of July, also due to EASA Psychological assessment requirements.
We also wish to emphasize that the process is not intended to put you in an uncomfortable
position by any means and will be adjusted to your Wizz Air experience as far as practicable.
You will be informed in due course."
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 12:08
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I've seen similar before, do not be discouraged. It's the human nature of people in HR getting the better of them.

At daring times like these, when firing and recruiting happen en-masse as the company navigates changing tides (epmuphemism for rudderless) they try to do their absolute best. Feeling as if the weight of the whole corporation future stands on their shoulders, it is almost unavoidable to end up overcomplicating things and running in circles.

Feeling of self-importance, especially when partially true, and trying too hard is never conductive to creating reasonable solutions.

Happens to pilots too, there'd be no foul play. Just erraticism under pressure.

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Old 11th Jul 2020, 12:41
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Also, can anyone please explain how the holding pool system works? Is it going to be a holding pool for the entire WZZ group, for one specific AOC (Hungary/UK/UAE) or for specific bases?
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