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Old 26th Mar 2018, 08:14
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I understand that its indeed very though to change airplane, company and move seat also. Nice to hear its easy to get Kutaisi base though. Thank you for the replies !
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Old 26th Mar 2018, 17:36
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Hi guys,

Long time reader, first time poster. After years of lurking silently on this forum I've decided to ask you for a bit of an advice.

After reading all the info I possibly could, I'm still interested in joining Wizz (the much discussed Ts & Cs would actually be a considerable improvement – I know, shame on me).

At the moment I have approximately 430 Jet hours, flying bizjets for a small scale operator.

I'd like to apply for the experienced FO position (NTR), even though I still lack a couple of dozen hours, so my question is:

What are the chances of them accepting my application even though I don't meet the minimum hours? Or perhaps I should apply for the NTR Cadet pilot position? I've read both on the Wizz website and in the datasheet that applying without meeting the requirements results in an automatic rejection, that's why I hesitate.

I'm asking like this since there seems to be a shortage of pilots at Wizz right now, with the summer coming and everything, so I don't wanna wait after the season when the situation can be different. I'll have those 500 required hours in approximately 2 months, but won't have time to prepare for a possible interview during the summer, so It's either now or in the autumn.

Thanks for your help and time guys, cheers
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Old 26th Mar 2018, 18:26
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Regarding Wizz it’s true that applying without meeting requrements results in rejection (plus it used to be 2 yrs ban). If you’re determined to apply for them do it for cadet and then there is always a chance they would give you an upgrade.
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Old 26th Mar 2018, 21:58
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They will be looking for pilots for many years to come, wait till you have the hours, a few months is not going to change anything.
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 09:52
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Are they hiring NTR with 300 hours TT or do they prefer those with at least 500 hours on multi-crew aircraft? Just trying to understand when it's better to apply.
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 09:54
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Originally Posted by Banana Joe View Post
Are they hiring NTR with 300 hours TT or do they prefer those with at least 500 hours on multi-crew aircraft? Just trying to understand when it's better to apply.
If you meet the requirements on their website, any of them, then they are hiring.
However, for the position of cadet, there is currently a long waiting list of applications.

Good luck
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 10:52
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Thanks for the replies guys,

Guess I'll spend the summer at my current outfit and apply in the autumn

Just as i expected and schweizer confirmed, there has to be a long line of cadet applicants waiting, so it definitely seems a better option to apply for the experienced FO position

Cheers and good luck to all of you
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 11:55
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Originally Posted by ludosky350 View Post
Here it is
Super Ludosky, thanks for sharing.

Does anyone have similar information on other bases? Or will the T&Cs be the same?

Since the way of living will be more expensive in some places compared to others, does anyone know if Wizz makes small adjustments to the pay to make it somewhat competitive- and make it possible to have a life in that place?
20K/year won't get you anywhere in Vienna/Luton compared to Bucharest?

Anyone currently in Wizz who would like to share their thoughts on their bases? Origin? Pros & cons on their base?
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 11:03
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Originally Posted by Lellie View Post
Super Ludosky, thanks for sharing.

Does anyone have similar information on other bases? Or will the T&Cs be the same?

Since the way of living will be more expensive in some places compared to others, does anyone know if Wizz makes small adjustments to the pay to make it somewhat competitive- and make it possible to have a life in that place?
20K/year won't get you anywhere in Vienna/Luton compared to Bucharest?

Anyone currently in Wizz who would like to share their thoughts on their bases? Origin? Pros & cons on their base?
Basic salary remains the same, adjustments made in terms of per diem and sector pay depending on base, though this is all changing shortly and no one knows whats going to happen.
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 11:52
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Originally Posted by Lolo75020 View Post
Conditions in Wizz are every thing but clear. When asking agencies how much money is expected they give a range of money as wide as 4900 to 8000 euros because it depends on contract base blablabla.
But as we cannot choose the base finally we don't know where to live and what to earn.
I asked as well the salary for Luton but agency advised me that they wanted preferarely British guys without give me any figures. Are they close to what offers EZY or RYR in Luton?
What about Vienna? Do they have a good deal to attract guys.
Hi Lolo

How about you, are you in Wizz currently? And what is your experience?

Does anyone have any updated info on Wizz regarding anything from: need of pilots, vision, assessment, terms & conditions?

Anyone going for assessment?
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Lellie View Post
Hi Lolo

How about you, are you in Wizz currently? And what is your experience?

Does anyone have any updated info on Wizz regarding anything from: need of pilots, vision, assessment, terms & conditions?

Anyone going for assessment?
No I am not in Wizz. I am just looking at the market carefully because I want to move for a better place for better money. But at the moment none of companies can offer me what I want.
It is either very low salary either bad place. Right now I am between both...

Regarding Wizz. I think they will have good future as now company is very strong.

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Old 31st Mar 2018, 12:25
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The truth is wizz is not a career airline, unless you are from eastern europe, and dont want to move.

Good to build experience, have good training, have a lot of fun (nice collegues and great social life in EE) and then leave for greener pastures.
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 17:24
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If you work in Wizzair as a Captain for more than 3 years and doing more than 450 sectors per year you bearly reach 90k before the tax (I'm talking about the local contract). It means that you get 60- 65k gross less than RYR guys for the same 900hrs/year job (difference is that you get free water and so called "supplementary crew meal").

Captain in Wizzair earns the same money as SFO in RYR... and this nasty top management is proud of it. During the base meeting if you will ask one of them why the hell this situation is so terrible you will be told: "there is no place in Wizzair for the pilots that want to earn more". Simply - if you start to have expectations than they want to replace you with some NTR direct entry Cpts without previous big jets experience- thats the fact...
By the way- good luck and Happy Easter

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Old 31st Mar 2018, 21:30
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There is no doubt that Wizz is not at the bottom of the market with the real rock bottom operators. Also, the latest base at London Luton looks like it will pay good money in line with Western salaries. That said, there are better employers out there. The good news is that they have so many aircraft arriving plus losing pilots to other better-paying airlines that they are being forced to up their game in terms of salary etc. They are also quite a professional outfit by all accounts, which means that you are not facing some of the depressing pressures you can experience when working for some of the bottom feeders. Typically, this can be issues like you have a technical problem the Chief Pilot says is not really a big deal even if the MEL says 'no dispatch'. Or you can have a performance issue at dispatch and the captain says performance is only a guide for people who think they are likely to lose an engine, which you of course will not. Do you want to be a team player and keep your job or be a loser and spout lots of stupid rules nobody cares about? And so it goes on. To be free of all that is a great relief and I hear no such reports from Wizz. That alone makes them worth looking at frankly.
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Count of Monte Bisto View Post
There is no doubt that Wizz is not at the bottom of the market with the real rock bottom operators. Also, the latest base at London Luton looks like it will pay good money in line with Western salaries. That said, there are better employers out there. The good news is that they have so many aircraft arriving plus losing pilots to other better-paying airlines that they are being forced to up their game in terms of salary etc. They are also quite a professional outfit by all accounts, which means that you are not facing some of the depressing pressures you can experience when working for some of the bottom feeders. Typically, this can be issues like you have a technical problem the Chief Pilot says is not really a big deal even if the MEL says 'no dispatch'. Or you can have a performance issue at dispatch and the captain says performance is only a guide for people who think they are likely to lose an engine, which you of course will not. Do you want to be a team player and keep your job or be a loser and spout lots of stupid rules nobody cares about? And so it goes on. To be free of all that is a great relief and I hear no such reports from Wizz. That alone makes them worth looking at frankly.
I completely agree, and the "just" culture here at Wizz is great. The training department is fantastic and the crews are very professional. Just need a smidgens more cash!
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 10:35
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I don’t know in which Wizz are you working but the one I left last year, training is bad and standards of the crews are low. Most of the guys from training department are totaly incompetent to be professional pilots and not to mention instructors ( there are some really good exceptions, of course). Crew knowlegde is very poor generaly. Yes, guys know how to operate Airbus, but you can train a monkey to do that probably. They lack some serious basics. Again, there are some really good guys, but they are very, very rare.
It’s fun enviroment and the cabin crew is generaly nice, but they are also far from being to ‘good standards’.
Just culture is one of the rare very positive things in that company.
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 12:17
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Then we were in different companies, because I flew both in Wizzair and easyJet and I didn’t find any significant difference in training and standards on the line, in either flight deck or cabin.

And it seems general opinions that the standards in easyJet are decent, so...

Not by chance many instructors/examiners are in common, and ex Wizz Head of flight ops is now in Easy in the same position.
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 14:22
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Also according to my own experience training is top notch, got to fly with some great people from around the World, but the only thing they couldn't get right was a decent roster in the bigger bases and the fair allocation of holidays.
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 14:39
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Originally Posted by booze View Post
Also according to my own experience training is top notch, got to fly with some great people from around the World, but the only thing they couldn't get right was a decent roster in the bigger bases and the fair allocation of holidays.
Booze, don’t forget about the main issue- lack of decent salary :P
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 18:01
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Originally Posted by Pilot_GDN View Post
And let me guess... You were a cadet from some “top gun” british flight school ?
Because as I look at it everything in wizz is bad besides training department... as a proof I can only tell that majority of people from wizz that decide to leave have no problem getting the job of their preference, and quite often at company’s better than EasyJet

And getting back to the company itself, it is bad. They treat You with now respect like their slave. Constant max hours, minimum rest, flying out of different base then in your contract with no chances to commute etc.
Last year they canceled all duty duty patterns for the high season with one email ending with “thank You for understanding” and I guess this year it is going to be the same...
AMEN.
I can bet that this new 5/4 fixed roster pattern wont survive till the beginning of summer season
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