IAG remove a jump seat from A320
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IAG remove a jump seat from A320
From Willie Walsh
"He says that, by reviewing the aircraft, IAG was able to “remove a lot of stuff we’d had on our aircraft, simply because we’d always had it there”.
This included items such as unnecessary jump-seats in the cockpit, he says: “Typically the people sitting in those seats don’t pay. Now we only have one jump-seat. That’s all you need. It removes cost and removes weight.”
Reducing flight crew perks even more...
"He says that, by reviewing the aircraft, IAG was able to “remove a lot of stuff we’d had on our aircraft, simply because we’d always had it there”.
This included items such as unnecessary jump-seats in the cockpit, he says: “Typically the people sitting in those seats don’t pay. Now we only have one jump-seat. That’s all you need. It removes cost and removes weight.”
Reducing flight crew perks even more...
Typically the people sitting in those seats don’t pay.
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NAS have done the same, all new 737 deliveries arriving without the (admittedly fairly awful but sometimes useful ) 2nd FD JS.
Savings obviously extend to the cost of a 4th O2 mask/set-up.
Main demerit is there is now nowhere for the Cabin Crew to "linger" when she comes to bring you coffee
Savings obviously extend to the cost of a 4th O2 mask/set-up.
Main demerit is there is now nowhere for the Cabin Crew to "linger" when she comes to bring you coffee
Ut Sementem Feeceris
How can removal of a non-essential, 99.9% unused seat of the flight deck elicit so many replies? 
How often are BA/Iberia flights 100% full with more than one staff jump seater trying to get on? Pretty rare I would think so.......
How often are BA/Iberia flights 100% full with more than one staff jump seater trying to get on? Pretty rare I would think so.......
How often are BA/Iberia flights 100% full with more than one staff jump seater trying to get on? Pretty rare I would think so.......
All very well for our Willie, don't suppose he has much trouble getting on when he needs or wants to.
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This is unbelievable , how dare Willie Walsh treat his staff like this !! I mean , imagine filling all the seats on commuter routes, what the hell are the staff to do !! Best to block of 10 seats per flight just incase there is anybody on an ID90.
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I would respectfully suggest that this is just the start. Now he is getting to the bottom of sorting out Iberia his focus will turn elsewhere. He did the same stunts when he was our CEO. Just look back at history for a sample of the delights that await.
**** all to do with Willie Walsh. The A321s only ever had one flight deck jump seat whilst the IAE LCD 320s ordered years ago only had one jump seat. So not new and not news. And certainly not the work of WW.
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And so what?
A lot of airlines have their A320 series with only one jumpseat in the flightdeck (All ex Airbus Spanair; Some A320 of Air Berlin (I don't know if all of them) etc).
A lot of airlines have their A320 series with only one jumpseat in the flightdeck (All ex Airbus Spanair; Some A320 of Air Berlin (I don't know if all of them) etc).
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Your flights in Europe must not be as full as ours in the US. I carry two flightdeck jumpseaters on many of my flights, some of them 5 hours or more. Every flight in the US is packed, particularly in the summer. Many of us also commute during the year so the flight deck ride is our ride to work.
With airline consolidation and the trimming of capacity there are less seats for more demand. Great for the company, not so great for one of the few benefits that airline employees have. All our aircraft come with 2 FD jumpseats. I know that I the past other airlines have taken delivery with just one but I doubt that any US carrier will do that again in the future. They like it when we make it in to work.
With airline consolidation and the trimming of capacity there are less seats for more demand. Great for the company, not so great for one of the few benefits that airline employees have. All our aircraft come with 2 FD jumpseats. I know that I the past other airlines have taken delivery with just one but I doubt that any US carrier will do that again in the future. They like it when we make it in to work.