BA Direct Entry Pilot.
It may have a lot to do with it. Joined: Feb 2018
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From: London
I think as your group is 1/3 the size of the other pool it leads to reduced satisfaction towards the bottom of the list.
Especially as each group has to whittle down to only one trip per day leftover on global constraints.
That, combined with the lack of movement up the list for eternity, were the shocking outcomes of your former colleagues volunteering you under the bus at the last zipper vote.
Especially as each group has to whittle down to only one trip per day leftover on global constraints.
That, combined with the lack of movement up the list for eternity, were the shocking outcomes of your former colleagues volunteering you under the bus at the last zipper vote.
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From: Approaching TOMBI
Minimal days off on weekends for junior pilots seems to be a very prevalent theme.
So the only realistic expectation for weekends off are going to those that have been booked through "Gold" days and leave. What is the leave allowance? Is it based on seniority or is it points based depending on what leave you had the previous year (Peak summer/Christmas ect.)?
Thanks.
So the only realistic expectation for weekends off are going to those that have been booked through "Gold" days and leave. What is the leave allowance? Is it based on seniority or is it points based depending on what leave you had the previous year (Peak summer/Christmas ect.)?
Thanks.
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From: here
Just been invited to an assessment , but now after reading this thread I'm not sure anymore..
nothing mentioned yet about paying for type rating, and I need to fund my own airfare and accommodation, for an airline with 3 daily flight from my city......
nothing mentioned yet about paying for type rating, and I need to fund my own airfare and accommodation, for an airline with 3 daily flight from my city......
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From: england
As far as Parental leave goes, BA are pretty accommodating as long as you aren’t for school holidays off. As you can imagine, there is a waitlist for the public/school holiday periods, but outside that, you’d stand a pretty good chance . I believe you can only use 4 weeks a year per child though?
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From: Inglaterra
Are you a new pilot or experienced? Only new pilots have to pay and it was clearly written on the job description document before you applied....
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From: The Winchester
I'd offer the option that you are right to be concerned about only having 3 daily "commuting" flights...it can be done, but stating the obvious you can end up with a lot of "dead" time, either at LHR after arriving or before going home.
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From: The Winchester
Minimal days off on weekends for junior pilots seems to be a very prevalent theme.
So the only realistic expectation for weekends off are going to those that have been booked through "Gold" days and leave. What is the leave allowance? Is it based on seniority or is it points based depending on what leave you had the previous year (Peak summer/Christmas ect.)?
Thanks.
So the only realistic expectation for weekends off are going to those that have been booked through "Gold" days and leave. What is the leave allowance? Is it based on seniority or is it points based depending on what leave you had the previous year (Peak summer/Christmas ect.)?
Thanks.
Two leave "seasons" - Summer & Winter.
In each season you are entitled to 14 days leave and one Duty free Week (DFW)
So total 28 leave days and 2 X DFWs every twelve months
Leave can be taken as one 14 day block ( traditionally starts on a Saturday, though under JSS you may now be able to slide leave start by +- I think 3 days) or two 7 day blocks ( starting on a Saturday, now also subject to possible "slide").
One block has a couple of "wrap" days before where the company can't assign work ..the other block has "wrap" days after. Those days accrue zero credit.
You cannot break annual leave down into any smaller blocks, such as single days or two day blocks .
DFW is a single week, with one (optional) credit free day of free duty before it starts.
leave is awarded on the basis of a points system..if points are equal senority rules.
HTH.
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From: France
Just to add to Wiggy’s excellent post, one of the benefits of the DFW is that you can elect to work during some or all of it, thereby earning extra credit which can be ‘spent’ by taking days off elsewhere. Thus, if the dates of DFW awarded are not your first choice, you can maybe get some better free days. This used to be easier under bidline and I’m no expert on JSS but worth considering anyway. You can’t work during leave, so that is the main difference.
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From: London
As far as Parental leave goes, BA are pretty accommodating as long as you aren’t for school holidays off. As you can imagine, there is a waitlist for the public/school holiday periods, but outside that, you’d stand a pretty good chance . I believe you can only use 4 weeks a year per child though?
This hasn't been my experience. Out of 4 applications for parental leave I have only been successful once. On top of that it is never approved out of the gate, it is always waitlisted and you are left unable to make plans.
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From: UK
(FWIW I tried that argument at a previous employer and they offered dates unpaid that I was already due to be on leave, not really in the spirit!!)
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From: London
I read somewhere else in the depths of this site that long haul layovers are to eventually be reduced to 24hrs. Any truth to that or just plain rumour mill? Doesn’t sound like time for much more than dinner, very short sightseeing trip if you can be bothered, sleep, eat, fly home...
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From: The Winchester
I read somewhere else in the depths of this site that long haul layovers are to eventually be reduced to 24hrs. Any truth to that or just plain rumour mill? Doesn’t sound like time for much more than dinner, very short sightseeing trip if you can be bothered, sleep, eat, fly home...
I think it went something along the lines of “ you know, if you reduced rest down route it would mean more time at home”......I might be wrong but the follow up might have. been something to do with having a bridge to sell.
I guess the idea might get some traction with those who get bored with LAX, HKG or SFO etc but I don’t think most people are interested so IMHO it’s not an immediate threat but it is obviously on a wish list.
Riskybis - the slip timings you describe, a consequence of the ancient and cunningly named “West Coast agreement”, are still intact.