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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 03:45
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The UK Ezy flight crew wouldn't go on strike even if they could.
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Craggenmore - there speaks a bitter man.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 06:56
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therefore it would be a breach of contract by the UK based crew if they refused to work
Not if there is an agreement between national pilot unions not to break any strikes within the company....
But then there have to be unions, and agreements...
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 08:04
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what are the reasons for their strike. Have they had their T&Cs changed?

If that is what happened, the whole EZY should support them. Not doing it means that the whole of EZY pilots will have their T&Cs changed sooner or later, and to the worse, of course, that goes without saying...
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Not if there is an agreement between national pilot unions not to break any strikes within the company....
But then there have to be unions, and agreements...
And how, pray tell, does that work?

In the UK you can only strike when it is your own terms and conditions affected. You can't go out on a sympathy strike and if you do you have absolutely no protection and will probably be fired. As has been said, it was only UK crews used, flying UK based aircraft which bypassed Portuguese laws about strike breaking. No doubt they were used as the UK labour laws are far weaker than the other countries where easyJet has bases.

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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 08:34
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I note certain posters have not yet had the good manners to apologise to busav8r for calling him a liar.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 08:38
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Scabs. End of story.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 08:47
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Scabs. End of story.
Another insightful reply. Do you want me to send you links to the ACAS website telling you what you can, and can't strike for in the UK? I'm sure all of the guys sent out to operate fully supported the LIS pilots but they simply couldn't refuse to fly.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 09:21
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I flew as a passenger GVA-LIS yesterday and: first the flight was operated by easySwiss out of standby and I can confirm that many easyJet planes were parked on unusual stands....
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 10:13
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Green granite says I note certain posters have not yet had the good manners to apologise to busav8r for calling him a liar.
Why does he need an apology? The title of this thread is mischievous and inaccurate, there was a FULL flying programme in LIS yesterday that ran, more or less, on time.

How can that happen if 'All the planes grounded'??
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 10:56
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@kick the tyres

busav8r - your title is somewhat WRONG as you didnt bother to check on the
false rumours you are trying to spread.

Big loss of credibility to
YOU!!!!
He merely said that all planes of EasyJet's Lisbon base were grounded for a strike of pilots. All 3 facts are confirmed therefore it a big loss of credibilty indeed but not to busav8r...
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 11:23
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LIS is the testing ground.

So now expect those wonderful T&C's from LIS to be spread all over. I guess UK would be the next move. Divide and conquer springs to mind.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 13:43
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Divide and conquer springs to mind.
It's already happened hence the inability to strike.

1. regular workforce (anyone from 1995 to 2008)
2. cadets
3. Parc contractors
4. easy Swiss
5. Flexi-crew

Kick - I'm not a bitter man. I tend to drink Reims finest on my thrice monthly global nightstops..!

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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 14:27
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I would not expect

anything different from a company such as easyjet.Worse even than ryanair and that says a lot.They are breaking every rule going.Free First Officers mortgaged to the hilt(ctc scam).Flexicrew?wtf?And now no respect for another EU country's union rules by scabbing a legit strike.But having seen some of the pilots in this orange nightmare of politically correct modern-day CRAP,I am not entirely surprised.Pilots today arent what they used to be.We always had our fair share of in aviation but now we've got non-pukka people,people with no scruples,no upbringing,people with no code..they fly for free,pay their ratings upfront,and totally diminish the profession that once was.And strike-breaking of one's colleagues,providing the strike was legit and had a sound justification,is an immense crime and sacrilege.You just wouldnt do it back a while when airlines were run and staffed by good people with morals..You cant just say the UK crews were ordered to fly the LIS roster and they had no choice.Of course they had a choice.They can say NO!Chav pilots..chav airline
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 15:42
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A pilot group with balls would NEVER break an official strike of colleagues.
You ALWAYSmhave a choice, you can always call in sick for that duty.
Simply disgusting.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 15:46
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Originally Posted by FR-
Totally wrong, please get facts right before posting rubbish like this, this sort of stuff effects the business and share price, hang your head in shame.
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busav8r - your title is somewhat WRONG as you didnt bother to check on the false rumours you are trying to spread.

Big loss of credibility to YOU!!!!
Usually I don't have the habit to comment others poster's provocations. Generally I try to ignore them.

But in this particular case it was obvious that this guys were really pissed off because I spread the news of something that apparently was not supposed to be publicized. No wonder why.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 15:57
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A pilot group with balls would NEVER break an official strike of colleagues.
You ALWAYSmhave a choice, you can always call in sick for that duty.
Simply disgusting.
I think most of the crews from the UK (or other bases) who made the EasyJet's Lisbon base flights had absolutely no idea why they were doing those flights. Apparently nobody knew about this strike action until this was disclosed in this forum yesterday's afternoon.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 17:11
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Personally, I think busav8r was indeed totally misrepresented. There was indeed an easyJet pilot strike at Lisbon yesterday, and the aircraft based there did not fly. The flight programme was only possible because it is winter and there is a surplus of crew and aircraft elsewhere. No pilot wanted to fly there but simply had no choice due to legal considerations in the UK. It was made very clear by BALPA to its members that no protections existed for those members who refused duties in Lisbon. Regarding 'calling sick' possibilities, I would have to say that would be a massive escalation and is not something to enter lightly. What the strike was about I have no idea, but I imagine it was related to the terrible contract in Portugal. I hope it ad the desired effect of bringing the management to its senses and encouraged then into reasonable dialogue - I fear not, however.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 21:59
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So what are the UK EJ pilots doing to find out what's going on and if there's anything they can do to help their colleagues in the same Company?
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 23:02
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I always thought it was on a volunteer basis to accept a position in LIS?

No surprise when signing the contract? Now change of mind or did the company set the people up?
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