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Arrived 01Nov
Validated 10th
LOFT 12th
Released 27th
just under 4 weeks on Per Diem and Hotel provided.
paid on the 12th of Dec, but asked them to hold it until next month and pay the 2 together, save on my bank costs.
Given the season, can I wish everyone, yes everyone who either writes or reads posts on this forum Happy holidays and a prosperous 2013.
Validated 10th
LOFT 12th
Released 27th
just under 4 weeks on Per Diem and Hotel provided.
paid on the 12th of Dec, but asked them to hold it until next month and pay the 2 together, save on my bank costs.
Given the season, can I wish everyone, yes everyone who either writes or reads posts on this forum Happy holidays and a prosperous 2013.
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suppose you could look at it that way, sure I was not on actual contract until I was released but I did have accomodation given and a per diem every day so was entitled to just under 1800USDs for my month, but I knew it would be this way before I entered this so I was doing it eyes wide open, although they need us as soon as possible to be on the line for the 777 I spoken to a guy i went thru and have propsoed to em that they do the same for the other types if guys are current and ready to go,he said they had already done it and are waiting for it to get to the top man for approval.
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I'll agree about the 200 hour pilot B777TAC because they just don't know any better. However a 20,000 pilot should know that prostituting oneself does nothing for the industry, nor garner respect for themselves from their peers. At the end of the day, the just don't give a rat's a$$ about anybody else, or the future of the industry.
I dare anyone to prove me wrong!
I dare anyone to prove me wrong!
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FTL, roster, layover issues questions
Hey chipmunk
Could you please let me know the flight time limitations issues like minimum rest between flight duty periods, max FDP, Block time etc..etc
Also what routes the 777 is doing, cargo and passenger?
Expats flying both or just cargo?
Roster stability?
Layovers?
Line training?
You mentioned you were paid on the 12th of Dec. it was a full month salary after the LOFT on the 12 th of Nov?
I would apppeciate your answers. I might consider to go there.
Cheers
Could you please let me know the flight time limitations issues like minimum rest between flight duty periods, max FDP, Block time etc..etc
Also what routes the 777 is doing, cargo and passenger?
Expats flying both or just cargo?
Roster stability?
Layovers?
Line training?
You mentioned you were paid on the 12th of Dec. it was a full month salary after the LOFT on the 12 th of Nov?
I would apppeciate your answers. I might consider to go there.
Cheers
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What your doing is nothing short of prostitution!
I'm sure their former colleagues are proud to know these two.
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For any information I can help anyone with please PM me.
Thanks.
For those who wish to speak with me and back up their comments also PM me and I'll pass you a contact for me where you can speak to me iso faceless typing - and its spelt chipmunk if you are going to bitch at least bitch with correct spellings.
Thanks.
For those who wish to speak with me and back up their comments also PM me and I'll pass you a contact for me where you can speak to me iso faceless typing - and its spelt chipmunk if you are going to bitch at least bitch with correct spellings.
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No pay during ground school is bad enough bullet to bite. Reduced pay during training is also a hard nutto bite. However, the very thought ofstepping into a cockpit, operating even one revenue flight, with no pay,without question, sets bad example for those looking for a cockpit job. Working for free is next second in line topadding the log book to get that flying job. It undermines those attempting to raise the bar and restore the respectfor fellow members of in industry.
Help me out here folks… because I’m just not getting it. Is operating a revenue flight withoutVcompensation acceptable? What are thejustifications? Are there any justificatins? What’s next??? pay-to-play? Oh wait… there’s Lion Air in Indonesia for that game. And that’s an entirely different and non-the less a very sore subject and bone of contention for another thread.
There are better places to work for free and for a much worthy cause, ratherthan aiding the funding of other’s pockets. Not ready to hang up the goggles and want to fly without compensation? Try a worthy endeavor, such as missionary flying. Far more self-rewarding and self-respectablethan the likes of Ethiopian.
Help me out here folks… because I’m just not getting it. Is operating a revenue flight withoutVcompensation acceptable? What are thejustifications? Are there any justificatins? What’s next??? pay-to-play? Oh wait… there’s Lion Air in Indonesia for that game. And that’s an entirely different and non-the less a very sore subject and bone of contention for another thread.
There are better places to work for free and for a much worthy cause, ratherthan aiding the funding of other’s pockets. Not ready to hang up the goggles and want to fly without compensation? Try a worthy endeavor, such as missionary flying. Far more self-rewarding and self-respectablethan the likes of Ethiopian.
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There are Guy´s out and pay over 50.000 $ to get a B737 Rating and 300 hours on type. Where is the problem? ´Not a Pilot shortage I would say.... despite the promise of the pruduction line (Flight-School) They want to earn bucks, nothing else. If anyone stopps that crap then the HR People would have to rethink. When the Metal does not move costs rise, question what was going wrong earlier would not arise. The last few years I see common sense in our Industry fading away....
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OldBold-well said. A prostitute GETS PAID!!! Any individual that can hold a 777 Command position, and works for free for an Airline, is worse than a scab-even they get paid. How the hell can you look in the mirror mate. Must be a great CRM environment in the cockpit too when you are flying with local F/O's who know what you have done, and therefore come to an appropriate conclusion as to your individual worth. I have had the pleasure to fly with Ethiopian F/O's at my carrier, all good and professional operators, and they all left their flag carrier so they could better their financial status and standard of living. Why did they have to do that-because of sad sorry individuals like chipmunk!
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I would love to be a fly on the wall when one of their kids runs into the house with a big grin on their faces to tell Daddy "Great news dad!!! I got a job, and I I have to pay to wok their. And if I make through their training, I may get paid. But what the heck, Dad, you worked for free, and you thought it was OK. By the way Dad, can you pay my rent, gas, and food for a while. Also Dad, I need date money too."
Yep... I would like see one of these charity workers at Ethiopian put thei arm around that kid's shoulder and say "No problemo
". Yep
Yep... I would like see one of these charity workers at Ethiopian put thei arm around that kid's shoulder and say "No problemo
". Yep
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Gee... can it be that Ethiopian is expanding by leaps and bounds that they need so many pilots fleet wide?
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Anyway, I challenged Flight Crew International, about the $60 daily per Diem issue. They, responded with, all details concerning remuneration will be conveyed, during the interview.
FCI will not volunteer the per Diem issue either.
. Anyway, I challenged Flight Crew International, about the $60 daily per Diem issue. They, responded with, all details concerning remuneration will be conveyed, during the interview.
FCI will not volunteer the per Diem issue either.
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I'm a 777 captain and was looking at this as I fancy a change from the Middle East, and the Ethiopian job is advertised on virtually every job site. I'm now not surprised. I wouldn't touch this company with a barge-pole after reading that you don't get paid during training. I'm amazed that anyone qualified as a 777 skipper would even look at something like this, unless they've been fired from somewhere else and are desperate. Be interesting to see if they get enough pilots, and quite worrying both in terms of safety and the working standards of the industry as a whole if they do.