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So are BA recruiting?

Old 7th Aug 2012, 20:36
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So are BA recruiting?

BA Recruitment

"We are currently recruiting British Airways Pilots through our Direct Entry Pilot Scheme."

It says they are recruiting but there doesnt seem to be anywhere on the page linked to an online application?

Are they recruiting or am I missing something here?
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Old 7th Aug 2012, 20:50
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They are not currently recruiting. That webpage has obviously not been updated in a while.
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Old 7th Aug 2012, 20:58
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Thanks veetwo
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Old 7th Aug 2012, 22:16
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But the slots they've acquired through BMI will ultimately be released for long haul (more profit) and hence 777/787?/A380 ops will require a lot more crew and so the gates will open once again and the whole industry starts to move.....
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Old 7th Aug 2012, 23:16
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By which time the hold pool will have been emptied of many due to the 18 month rule.
I doubt that finding enough pilots will be a great issue for BA.
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Old 7th Aug 2012, 23:25
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Ah yes, sorry. What will happen to the current swimmers after the 18 months? Hopefully you guys don't have to go back to the beginning!
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 16:58
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If ever there was a better example of a culture of waste, then look no further than BA's recruitment policies!
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 21:11
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I couldnít agree with you more Mr Horgy. After dropping out the pool last time I sympathise with all hold poolers. I still canít believe LCand the recruitment team are saying you have to do the whole thing again. They havejust taken on 300 people without any form of selection yet the poolers once again are the ones who have to come back and do it all again! Must be cost effective. Thatís BA for you!

Itís a great industry!! Good luck to those swimming.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 22:37
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Took 300 without any hoop jumping. Yet the other 140 from that same company are not considered worthy of anything. Not even a half decent redundancy package.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 04:23
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They havejust taken on 300 people without any form of selection yet the poolers once again are the ones who have to come back and do it all again!
Oh do shut up and stop being silly.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 06:03
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They havejust taken on 300 people without any form of selection yet the poolers once again are the ones who have to come back and do it all again! Must be cost effective. Thatís BA for you!
No, that's a consequence of the (Industrial) Law of the land "for you"!

I'm sure the bean counters would have loved to have laid off 300 existing pilots on BMI T&Cs and recruited 300 DEPS on pay point 1 but AFAIK the relevant legislation doesn't allow that course of action in the UK.

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Old 9th Aug 2012, 07:18
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Took 300 without any hoop jumping. Yet the other 140 from that same company are not considered worthy of anything. Not even a half decent redundancy package.
If you're talking about BMI Baby - don't blame BA - whilst there is sympathy for their position by fellow pilots - they were never part of the offer.

Good luck to you all.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 09:23
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Oh do shut up and stop being silly.
Shaun Ryder, I'm guessing you are BMI, Congrats on the interview and sim check. You nailed them both. Well played

The BMI baby guys I do feel for you. I ended up in the desert when the pool was disbanded last time. I hope you guys find something soon.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 12:57
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Presumably the "logic" behind the 18 months is that you may not go near an aircraft after your successful entry into the pool - so 18 months down the line you may be a very different product from the one they interviewed/assessed.

Of the course the counter to that is if you've been flying regularly then....... What's the problem? It can only be a personality check.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 13:59
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With so long since selection ... who knows how many may actually take up an offer after waiting so long?
Well you could just ask them!

The guys at selection stated that they made no apology for the toughness and thoroughness of the selection day because once a pilot joins BA there is no further interview towards command, just a wait in a long queue. If the "command interview" is valid for 20 years, why not for 18 months +1 day?

I know, not my train set...
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 15:41
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The 18 months and your out rule is very strange. I see the logic from BA's side but if someone passed selection and is then outside the 18 months why not pull them back in for a interview and quick sim check based on position within the pool? Must be so disappointing for the hold poolers

The 300 odd bmi pilots who got in without doing the selection process...... Well let's just say there is a very demanding 18 day conversion course with multiple exams and hours and hours of sim work then the LOE, LPC/OPC to do before you are really in. Be under no illusion that it is a free ride into BA. If you don't make the grade you will be out and I understand there have been some casualties. On a personal note I would hope that when recruitment does re open that consideration would be given to baby guys and girls.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 19:18
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I don't think it's quite as bad as City Flyer suggests and as I was glued to the DEP thread when I was in the pool, I feel I should pass on murmurings I've heard from very informed sources. It seems there MAY be plans for DEP courses early-ish in the new year and in conjunction with the cadet courses. Please bear in mind it's only what I've been told and may change but with a 3-month lead-in for contract issue that could mean good news at the back end of the year for some. I hope this is true for everyones sake and I hope this helps. Good luck to all.
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Old 10th Aug 2012, 05:25
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No courses from the hold pool "probably". That's assuming every BMI pilot makes the grade.
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Old 10th Aug 2012, 10:12
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As Bex said in his~(her?) very reasonable post, the conversion course is not a free ride. The vast majority of people will get through, but a small number will walk into the sunset, so to speak.
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Old 10th Aug 2012, 15:47
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If you're talking about BMI Baby - don't blame BA - whilst there is sympathy for their position by fellow pilots - they were never part of the offer.
Errr....BA might never have wanted them, but they became part of the package when Lufthansa were not able to dispose of the airline.

We'll never know what would have happened had BA pilots made more noise about the matter....

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