RYR overcrewed with Fo's?
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Ronand finished off his original post saying "Do any other RYR FO's experience similar hr reduction or is it just my badluck?"
You have never been on subject.
Neither have I. But I never claimed to be.
No help needed from you. I have a funny feeling I was flying planes when you were still in a high chair.
Cheers anyway.
You have never been on subject.
Neither have I. But I never claimed to be.
No help needed from you. I have a funny feeling I was flying planes when you were still in a high chair.
Cheers anyway.
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I asked a question about his contract. That's about as on topic as you can get.
You will, of course, realise that you can still learn from those less experienced than yourself. Not that you can say for certain if I am or not.
Please, continue with your fallacies.
By the way, your hard on for Flybe is a bit concerning.
You will, of course, realise that you can still learn from those less experienced than yourself. Not that you can say for certain if I am or not.
Please, continue with your fallacies.
By the way, your hard on for Flybe is a bit concerning.
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Ronand,
You have the sympathies of many, both in and out of RYR, and you will also generate the best of the trolls and ignorants by starting a thread like this on PPrune.
LSM is an exception to the above, as although often harsh, she is generally fair.
It would be prudent to take this conversation to REPA, where you will be able to guarantee an audience of only fellow RYR pilots, and where the exchange of information is less polluted and less aggressive. If you are not yet a member I suggest you sign up and take a look around.
There are no minimum hours for us in RYR, and everyone who flies for the company knew this before they joined and still chose to walk the road to their door. To see at as imperfect is understandable. To complain outright about it is a little silly.
You have the sympathies of many, both in and out of RYR, and you will also generate the best of the trolls and ignorants by starting a thread like this on PPrune.
LSM is an exception to the above, as although often harsh, she is generally fair.
It would be prudent to take this conversation to REPA, where you will be able to guarantee an audience of only fellow RYR pilots, and where the exchange of information is less polluted and less aggressive. If you are not yet a member I suggest you sign up and take a look around.
There are no minimum hours for us in RYR, and everyone who flies for the company knew this before they joined and still chose to walk the road to their door. To see at as imperfect is understandable. To complain outright about it is a little silly.
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There are no minimum hours for us in RYR, and everyone who flies for the company knew this before they joined and still chose to walk the road to their door. To see at as imperfect is understandable. To complain outright about it is a little silly.
Last edited by Callsign Kilo; 27th June 2012 at 07:53.
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I'm sure Callsign Kilo has a point and his suggestions may be valid at several bases, but at my base all FOs are working hard no matter how many hours they've got, all are hovering around 800hrs in the last 12 months. There are of course no guarantees this will continue though.
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I did 700 hrs last year, and since may I've been flying an average of about 60hrs a month apparently a lot less than other FO's. From what I'm hearing. To be honest this makes me feel quite sick, that I'm earning a lot less than other FO's who are doing the same job, in the same company. I guess its time to start looking arround at other Operators...
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I did 700 hrs last year, and since may I've been flying an average of about 60hrs a month apparently a lot less than other FO's. From what I'm hearing. To be honest this makes me feel quite sick, that I'm earning a lot less than other FO's who are doing the same job, in the same company. I guess its time to start looking arround at other Operators...
Why do you think this is happening?
Do you think you will receive any sympathy?
Will expressing this sort of sentiment to perspective employers land you another job?
If you couldn't foresee something like this happening in Ryanair, then you shouldn't have joined. I mean know offence Ronand, but come on. Really.
Last edited by Callsign Kilo; 27th June 2012 at 11:15.
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I don't need sympathy, pilots are like sharks everyone for himself so I don't expect any sympathy from anyone....
Even though my moral is kinda low at the moment, I still don't regret that I joined, otherwise I would almost 100% sure be still sitting on my ass unepmloyed, and now I got options for better jobs....
Even though my moral is kinda low at the moment, I still don't regret that I joined, otherwise I would almost 100% sure be still sitting on my ass unepmloyed, and now I got options for better jobs....
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Ever thought of joining Repa?
I am afraid to say I agree with Callsign Kilo and LSM completely.
You join Ryanair, you get what ever they dish out. If you are not prepared o stand up to it, either by yourself or as a group, that's your look out.
I see you have been with Ryanair, for just over a year, maybe you should have took that biz jet job.
I am afraid to say I agree with Callsign Kilo and LSM completely.
You join Ryanair, you get what ever they dish out. If you are not prepared o stand up to it, either by yourself or as a group, that's your look out.
I see you have been with Ryanair, for just over a year, maybe you should have took that biz jet job.
Last edited by ford cortina; 27th June 2012 at 11:53.
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Today, I am told, the worst place to be in Ryanair is within the 500 - 2000 hours on type experience bracket. You are absolutely no use to them whatsoever. Unless you are a fresh out of the wrapper cadet which costs them next to nothing, a SFO with >2500hrs voicing a willingness to upgrade, a current skipper or a potential DEC then welcome to wilderness alley. Life isn't fair, but who told you otherwise? Was it Brookfield with their 800 hrs a year/4 years to command/life in the sunshine on a 5/4 bullsh1t?
The orange machine is already offering unpaid leave over winter. So what hope do the cadets and flexicrew have. See you next summer if you are retained.