Stand by duty limitations
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Stand by duty limitations
Hello,
Is anybody aware of any rules regarding how far past the end of the standby period I am allowed to work if I get called up for a flight?
example: standby duty ends at 12:00 utc, get called up to start work at 11:00 utc but work a 7 hour duty, thereby being done at 18:00 utc, 6 hours past 12:00 utc. Is this possible?
Can't find any solid stuff on this.
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Is anybody aware of any rules regarding how far past the end of the standby period I am allowed to work if I get called up for a flight?
example: standby duty ends at 12:00 utc, get called up to start work at 11:00 utc but work a 7 hour duty, thereby being done at 18:00 utc, 6 hours past 12:00 utc. Is this possible?
Can't find any solid stuff on this.
thanks
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Er you talking Sub Part Q or CAP371. Either way an expectation on your part to be done by the time the sby duty was due to end is naive at best. Depending on the scheme i suspect you could fly up to around 2200-2300
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It'll also depend on how long you were on standby before you were called.
If you were called out from standby to conduct a duty before completing six ours standby duty then the total duty period allowed is the sum of the time spent on standby and the FDP allowed.
If you were called out from standby to conduct a duty after completing 6 hours or more standby duty, then the total duty period allowed is the sum of all the time spent on standby and the allowable FDP reduced by the amount of standby worked in excess of 6 hours.
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If you were called out from standby to conduct a duty before completing six ours standby duty then the total duty period allowed is the sum of the time spent on standby and the FDP allowed.
If you were called out from standby to conduct a duty after completing 6 hours or more standby duty, then the total duty period allowed is the sum of all the time spent on standby and the allowable FDP reduced by the amount of standby worked in excess of 6 hours.
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Thank you both. I had a look at the subpart Q and CAP371 and did indeed see the same things you are talking about. It becomes clear that there is only one limit on how far past the end of the standby period you can work; the allowed FDP, depending on the 6 hours of standby already served or not.
Lots of confusion on this in my work place
Lots of confusion on this in my work place
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Now what about the other way around, can you fly before the standby begins?
lets say they call you a day before and the standby starts at 12 utc, could you fly at say 7 am (assuming no duty/rest issues with previous day).
lets say they call you a day before and the standby starts at 12 utc, could you fly at say 7 am (assuming no duty/rest issues with previous day).
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If you were not on duty, why did you answer the phone?
Once you answer the phone they can say it was a roster change rather than a call out from standby if it was a day earlier.
If you answer the phone whilst on rest, you are within your rights to say thanks for disturbing me, start the clock 12 hours from now and you can ring me again
If you were not on duty, why did you answer the phone?
Once you answer the phone they can say it was a roster change rather than a call out from standby if it was a day earlier.
If you answer the phone whilst on rest, you are within your rights to say thanks for disturbing me, start the clock 12 hours from now and you can ring me again