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Old 6th Jan 2011, 13:27
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PrivatAir selection

Hi all,

Would anybody know a thing or two about the situation in PrivatAir at the moment? Are they recruiting pilots, and if yes, what does the selection process containing?

Could there be a jockey from PrivatAir who would care to share a little about the everyday? Salary, roster, routes etc.

Anyway - just wondering
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 14:22
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Hi

They asked me to go for an iterview, see part of their email below;

To invite you for the selection is is vital, that you fulfill the following conditions:

- Available to start with PrivatAir latest the 15th of February 2011
- Available for Selections the 7th, 10th or 20th of January (Psychological Assessment and Interview)
- Available for SIM Assessments in January (a choice of dates will be given later)
- Valid B-737 Rating
- You are not over 40 years old

The selection will take place in Zurich, close to the Airport. We do not provide any Airline Tickets or HOTAC. The terms and conditions will be discussed at the Interview.


I couldn't/can't make the dates in January, and more importantly even if successful and I wanted to leave, I have to give 3 months notice with my current employer and starting on Feb 15th would be impossible. I did write and email explaining this etc, but never heard back.

Doesn't answer all your questions, but some. I got this reply towards end of December.

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Disappointed no HOTAC or ticket refunds. Didn't expect that from a company like Privatair.
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 18:21
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d105- that didn't sit well with me either. I know i'm not a superpilot whiz with a million hours, but you want young FO with time on type, current type, and you don't arrange flights and accom- humm
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Thanks a bunch!

If anybody knows a little about the selection that would be most appreciated.
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VJW I think that was a mistake working for who you work for. A prolonged illness would have taken care of your notice period. I think that was short sighted, had I been in your shoes I would have gone for the interview at the very least.
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 17:35
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That's easy to say, but aside from who I work for you know nothing of me.

We have one month off a year, and my wife is studying in the US right now (where she is from). I've planned on going to see her for a month since I was told which month it was. While it was nice to asked for an invite, I did email back for some more info, but never heard back. Mix that in with the fact I wanted to see my wife for the first time in months, and while the company I'm with isn't the best in the world, I don't/won't burn bridges with any employer when leaving to join someone else....

If the company is so great they'd have something in place for transport and accommodation too!

Perhaps you can judge me better now.
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I'll side with VJW on this one. It's stupid to make enemies in our sector at a very young age. In fact, it's stupid all-round. It's not up to us to tell VJW what he should have done since we don't know the whole story.

That last bit is something quite a few people on this forum should have in the back of their minds more often.
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And also, another good point is that if we start saying no to this conditions, such as spending 1000 euros for an interview, or get half pay the first 2 months, or such or such, the airline industry can only improve from it.

Bare it in mind
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 17:02
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Thumbs down

PTI is nothing more than a low-cost operation, cleverly disguised by a premium product earning it's respectability from it's once glorious past as a VVIP operator for one of Europe's richest families...
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Doug the head, do you mind to develop a bit more your statement. Thank you very much.
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He actually said all it needed to be said, cant agree more.
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Look, new flying for PrivatAir---Geneva and Milan

Click here: Gulf Air returns to Geneva and Milan market from S11 with Boeing 737 « AIRLINE ROUTE



From Airline Routes Blog:


Gulf Air returns to Geneva and Milan market from S11 with Boeing 737
20110105 by jimyvr Leave a Comment

Gulf Air from 28MAR11 will be expanding service to Europe after it scaled back its operation for 24-36 months. From 28MAR11, it’ll be launching 3 weekly Bahrain – Geneva and 4 weekly Bahrain – Milan Malpensa on board 2-class 94-seater Boeing 737 aircraft.

The Boeing 737 aircraft is configured in J16Y78, leased from PrivatAir.

Schedules and configuration as follows:

Bahrain – Geneva
GF023 BAH0215 – 0750GVA 737 246
GF022 GVA1150 – 1850BAH 737 246

Bahrain – Milan Malpensa
GF021 BAH0215 – 0735MXP 737 x246
GF020 MXP1200 – 1850BAH 737 x246

Boeing 737 configuration
Business Class 16 Seats
Layout AC – DF
Rows 1 – 4

Economy Class 78 Seats
Layout ABC – DEF
Rows 8 – 21 (No Row 13)
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Going out of business

Hi guys, I just heard the rumour in ZRH that Privatair is going out off business. Does anybody know more or is just a hoax?
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 00:05
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they just hired 20 people, 10 days ago and selectiing another bunch how can it be?
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 07:20
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Because that is how it always goes. Management acts like everything is fine on Sunday evening and files for bankruptcy on Monday morning...
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 08:57
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@Damianik

I was thinking the same thing..why hire people if they are going out of business??
they just secured a contract with Gulf Air for the Bahrain flights..
Plus the 5 year contract with Lufthansa.

Again just rumours or does anyone have some insider information?

I cant agree that PTI is a low cost operation, whats so low cost about flying 58 pax in an all C configured cabin...
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I cant agree that PTI is a low cost operation, whats so low cost about flying 58 pax in an all C configured cabin...
I know it's difficult, being from America and all that, () but please try to read carefully:
PTI is nothing more than a low-cost operation, cleverly disguised by a premium product...
The way they treat crews is a lot like any low cost operation. Just read the stories in this thread about phone calls not returned, verbal agreements not being honored, people having to pay for HOTAC to selection etc. Their upscale product cleverly camouflages this, but don't be so easily deceived by the blingbling! I know they call it a BBJ, but in the end it's just a bloody 737 and you're nothing more than the (limo)driver!

Over the years I've met quite a few ex-PTI pilots and initially I never quite understood why anyone would ever leave such a prestigious company...until I hear all the stories: flying 4-5 times per month across the Atlantic in a noisy cramped 737, positioning in your spare time paying for your own ticket, very limited job/base security etc etc. The real VVIP flights (where the real money, prestige and lifestyle is!) is only for a very selected few.

My advice: stay away from PTI! Don't give up a steady, secure job in return for a blingbling ACMI company that is totally dependent on contracts and that treats it's crews like a bunch contractors!
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 11:05
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Hmm I understood the disguised part...everyone knows it's just a 737, BBJ or no BBJ and it's also understood that they are dependent on the Contracts but I also know a few people working for this company and from what I am told they are quite happy and don't feel like contractors.

Was just shocked by the out of business rumour...

Its true that the guys on the private charter side are better off , really hard to get in there.
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 11:09
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By the way just food for thought..

But Ek was making people pay for tickets to DXB not so long ago...
Plus they don't honour their contacts that much..
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