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Do any of you out there still help other flight crew or try to give give them any preferential treatment ahead of the hoards of arbitrary staff travel pax ?. I always will and hoped the same might still occasionally hold true . In a very few last airlines out there the Captain does still have discretionary power , so please guys let's all try help out where we can . You may be sure if we don't help each other no one else will .
On a related matter many thanks to the last 3 Iberia captains who operated the last 3 flights 26th,27th,28th San Jose (Costa Rica) back to Madrid .
Myself , (flight deck )and missus (cabin attendant) have watched 18 people get put on ahead of us over the last three days , none actual crew or cabin staff and all their ZED travel links very tenuous at best . Captain gets to meet all extras to plead their case , so each gentleman very aware of our status and the days we've been waiting .
Moral of the story , don't ever ZED travel Iberia on any route with any expectation of ever returning unless the flights are so empty the route is about to get canned . If perhaps you are related to one of the sniffer dogs from Barajas or your 8th cousin thrice removed is a baggage handler for Iberia then you may fare better than us !.
Buen Viaje !
On a related matter many thanks to the last 3 Iberia captains who operated the last 3 flights 26th,27th,28th San Jose (Costa Rica) back to Madrid .
Myself , (flight deck )and missus (cabin attendant) have watched 18 people get put on ahead of us over the last three days , none actual crew or cabin staff and all their ZED travel links very tenuous at best . Captain gets to meet all extras to plead their case , so each gentleman very aware of our status and the days we've been waiting .
Moral of the story , don't ever ZED travel Iberia on any route with any expectation of ever returning unless the flights are so empty the route is about to get canned . If perhaps you are related to one of the sniffer dogs from Barajas or your 8th cousin thrice removed is a baggage handler for Iberia then you may fare better than us !.
Buen Viaje !
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I assume you are talking about granting jump seats when the wait list is done and dusted, because otherwise, companies have a strict priority order of acceptance, and it doesn't matter the position you hold in the company. Is just the onload priority order by ticket, and the crew has no authority over it, it's done by the passenger services staff.
Crew can only have a say in allowing cabin jump seats to be used.
Crew can only have a say in allowing cabin jump seats to be used.
Non rev can be precarious if there's not many flights and/or carriers on your route and the reality is that carriers will look after their own first.
As noted before, it's the passenger agent, well really the computer system, that decides. I have been helped by one agent who upgraded a few economy passengers to fit my family in the back.
You may have better chances taking a flight to Mexico City or Miami and finding a connection to Europe from there, but you may need to acquire more ZED tickets and turn in what you have for a refund.
In fact, I have on occasion traveled with two different return tickets in case my first choice was full; then refunded the unused ticket once back home.
As noted before, it's the passenger agent, well really the computer system, that decides. I have been helped by one agent who upgraded a few economy passengers to fit my family in the back.
You may have better chances taking a flight to Mexico City or Miami and finding a connection to Europe from there, but you may need to acquire more ZED tickets and turn in what you have for a refund.
In fact, I have on occasion traveled with two different return tickets in case my first choice was full; then refunded the unused ticket once back home.
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When travelling somewhere, I always take a set of tickets with me, just in case I have to go home via an alternative routing (I check out possibilites way ahead of my holiday). Free seats are given away regarding a priority list that takes into account your status. A CEO of our airline has a higher priority than myself, I have a higher priority than my girlfriend and she still has a higher priority than any external staff travelling. This means that it is highly unlikely to be put on a nearly full flight, if you have staff of that airline or even airline alliance travelling at the same time.
Jump seats is a good point. Our company does actually not allow staff of other airlines to travel in the cockpit, but final decision rests with the commander...
Jump seats is a good point. Our company does actually not allow staff of other airlines to travel in the cockpit, but final decision rests with the commander...
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I only have experience of Delta but last few times I used it in the US they had a very organised system with a TV screen at each gate updated real-time showing non-rev's in priority (based on service entry date of the relevant employee - which was displayed on the screen) order along with the cut-off line showing the current number of unallocated seats. As and when Rev's or higher priority non-rev's presented at the gate, the list was reshuffled.
They had S1-4 priorities although I think S1 & S2 were some kind of weird emergency as I only every used S3 & 4.
They had S1-4 priorities although I think S1 & S2 were some kind of weird emergency as I only every used S3 & 4.
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As stated before, it makes no difference what your job is, it is the priority of your ticket that will count. Your really only have priority if you are travelling with your own airline and even then it is down to seniority NOT the position you hold in the company. So in the instance you quoted, if you do not work for Iberia you will always go to back of the queue if a member of their own staff comes along. Being crew makes no difference.
