Question for Ryanair SFIs
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Question for Ryanair SFIs
Hi!
I´m considering going down the SFI route. Would any Ryanair SFIs out there like to shead a little light on the process, T&Cs and most importantly, would you do it again?
Thanks!
/L.
I´m considering going down the SFI route. Would any Ryanair SFIs out there like to shead a little light on the process, T&Cs and most importantly, would you do it again?
Thanks!
/L.
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From: I wish I knew
Process: 5 day Core course, teaching and learning, make sure you do the one with the sim and you get CRMI ticket as well. Then 5/6 day SFI course, TRI rating only issued if you have done 30 sectors on the type in previous 12 months. Check the restrictions, without mentorship from a TRTO you may have problems, but usually the TRI course providers can help. Good investment, probably about 10K in total.
Read STD DOC 24 and LASORS for requirements.
If you have a current FI rating and did it at an approved school, you may get a core course exemption, but then you may not get the CRMI privileges.
Of course you need a type rating on the type you want to instruct, but as an SFI no currency.
You don't have to be a Captain to be a TRI, just meet the requirements.
Good luck.
Read STD DOC 24 and LASORS for requirements.
If you have a current FI rating and did it at an approved school, you may get a core course exemption, but then you may not get the CRMI privileges.
Of course you need a type rating on the type you want to instruct, but as an SFI no currency.
You don't have to be a Captain to be a TRI, just meet the requirements.
Good luck.
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Investment, 10K
Is this not a thread about the Ryanair SFI for Ryanair pilots, not more pay to fly stuff, jesus if Ryanair start chargeing there experiance F/O's to be SFI's I think they will see a big ass hole in there requirements.
Is this not a thread about the Ryanair SFI for Ryanair pilots, not more pay to fly stuff, jesus if Ryanair start chargeing there experiance F/O's to be SFI's I think they will see a big ass hole in there requirements.
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From: I wish I knew
Come on guys, don't turn this into yet another anal PTF thread. I assumed this was a genuine question and the answer to get a TRI is as given. Now if this chap thinks by getting a TRI he/she will get work from FR.. NO, they have their own TRIs.
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From: Cloud Cookoo Land
5 day core course / groundschool / instructional technique.
7 sim sessions (2 as observations, 4 sim training sessions and one check). Obviously the more observations that you can make the better.
3 minimum supplementary sessions under supervision of a TRI/TRE. You may be released after this or further supplementary training scheduled.
You pay for the endorsement to you licence, as does any TRE/TRI in Ryanair.
7 sim sessions (2 as observations, 4 sim training sessions and one check). Obviously the more observations that you can make the better.
3 minimum supplementary sessions under supervision of a TRI/TRE. You may be released after this or further supplementary training scheduled.
You pay for the endorsement to you licence, as does any TRE/TRI in Ryanair.
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From: Cloud Cookoo Land
SFI = Synthetic Flight Instructor. The foundation is a TRI course, however SFIs are current line FOs, so hence the SFI title. Primarily 3 weeks of duty is sim and 1 week is regular line flying. The cost of the licence endorsement is yours, however the cost of the course is down to Ryanair.
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If you do the TRI course even as an FO you will get 737 TRI on your licence. If you have not flown 30 sectors in previous 12 months you cannot do the TRI course, only an SFI course. If you do the TRI course Your Licence will be endorsed TRI 737 300-900 sim only.
If you want to instruct on the real aircraft, that requires more training, baulked landings, misshandling etc.
See STD DOC 43 or JAR OPS1
Rank has nothing to do with TRI status
If you want to instruct on the real aircraft, that requires more training, baulked landings, misshandling etc.
See STD DOC 43 or JAR OPS1
Rank has nothing to do with TRI status
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From: HKG
So as I understand it anyone in Ryanair can pay them to become a sim instructor or type rating instructor, that sounds awesome as 30 secotrs is enough to be a type rating instructor!!!!!! This will really boost the industry as you need a whole 30 sectors to become a TRI, seriously what is this profession becoming? I am so glad I am not employed in the UK if 30 secotor wonders can be TRIs. I am sure I am missing something so please tell me it is not so that you can be a TRI if you have 30 sectors in type?
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From: Birmingha,
Yes you missed something, you also need a minimum 1500hrs JAR25. Also, as has already been pointed out, once selected the course cost is covered by Ryanair. The core course is outsourced the sim course is done in house. Once the course is completed successfully the endorsement is paid for by the applicant, direct to the IAA.
SFI's usually do a year or so in the role then move on for command upgrade. As a result, recruitment for the role comes up fairly regularly.
SFI's usually do a year or so in the role then move on for command upgrade. As a result, recruitment for the role comes up fairly regularly.
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From: Cloud Cookoo Land
SloppyJoe - either use some common sense or stop trying to instigate some sort of rise. I believe the thread is being replied to from two different sources. Those who have knowledge of the SFI/TRI qualification outside Ryanair and those inside Ryanair. I'm sure there isn't a vast amount of difference relating to the stipulations, however the 30 sector in 12 month rule will not apply because it simply can't. All SFIs are current line FOs, so they will have acquired much more than 30 sectors. They also need to have a minimum of 1500hrs on type to apply. They are then interviewed and assessed.
Once qualified their position and endorsement will be SFI. The course is the TRI foundation course, however TRI (sim) status cannot be acquired until command experience has been aquired and simulator training currency retained.
Once qualified their position and endorsement will be SFI. The course is the TRI foundation course, however TRI (sim) status cannot be acquired until command experience has been aquired and simulator training currency retained.
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From: HKG
Its not that I am not using common sense as there are strange things going on in aviation at the moment and was just curios about this. With guys being hired with 250 hours into the right seat of 737s it means that you can be an instructor on the 737 a couple of years after completing your studies at some flying school. To me this seems like a bad thing regardless of who is paying for it.
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1500hrs is the very minimum. As stated here, guys closer to the command are your usual SFIs. And it isn't simply the case of filling the position with anyone. Quite a bit is expected. They have never had any problems. Guys who had previously been SFIs all transferred to the LHS with ease. Quite a few are now LTCs and TREs. The SFI qualification within Ryanair has been around some time now, even before the fleet became all -800
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Spot on Callsign. Amazing it takes 16 posts on a thread before actual facts come to light.
Not dreamy " I want to believe it so it must be true" drivel.
Alas the truth.
Not dreamy " I want to believe it so it must be true" drivel.
Alas the truth.
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I think you will find sloppy joe that while our SFI may have been flying only 2-3 years on a 737, they are excellent. Much better than any senior TRE/TRI from various major European airlines that I have come across in my career.