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An official memo was released a few days ago detailing the much reduced hours planned for all fleets across the Winter. In fact the temporary contracts were open ended, originally foreseen to end around now, and very recently advised as being likely to continue till mid Jan, until the retraction of Oct1st.
The current "plans" (if you can call them that) appear to be as much related to politics as business.
Enjoy the freebie to RIX & the "lovely sights" on offer
shame the weather is going through a dire spell, might get better in the next couple of days with some luck.
Wouldn't plan on doing much 737 flying till April though, the present incumbents have already been asked to do less & accept less € so the logic of further immediate recruitment would be way over my head
The current "plans" (if you can call them that) appear to be as much related to politics as business.
Enjoy the freebie to RIX & the "lovely sights" on offer
shame the weather is going through a dire spell, might get better in the next couple of days with some luck.Wouldn't plan on doing much 737 flying till April though, the present incumbents have already been asked to do less & accept less € so the logic of further immediate recruitment would be way over my head
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Perhaps you should ask some pertinent questions at the selection & let us know what the "official" plan is, because we sure can't figure it out.
I'm excited to hear what these guys will get out of them.
CPH 22L - SID - Maneuvers (steep turns) - VOR - Windshear (GA) - ILS (engine fire). Maybe something different for you this time. Good luck!
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Thanks Avyator and Captplaystation.
Maybe they are recruiting for summer 2011?
I will also come back with any info I can find out.
Firestorm: I will come om monday morning, see you there!
Maybe they are recruiting for summer 2011?
I will also come back with any info I can find out.
Firestorm: I will come om monday morning, see you there!
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yes, BT will recruit in 2011. That's the plan anyway. And people will continue to leave due to the following:
BT is unable to pay all salaries this winter, cuts of 25% on paper, effectively 35% for most pilots.
The company offers:
Option 1: 75% of the basic salary and a reduction of guaranteed pay down from 60 hours to 45 hours.
Option 2: 7 days additionally off per month in a block, a 75% salary with a bigger reduction of those 45 hours pay.
This is purely voluntarily according to the company and only for 4 months (though the addendum that is to be signed does not mention a time limit, it is indefinite)
However if not sufficient volunteers can be found, people will be fired strictly according to seniority (which would be mostly newly Dash rated pilots).
makes sense? probably not.
BT is unable to pay all salaries this winter, cuts of 25% on paper, effectively 35% for most pilots.
The company offers:
Option 1: 75% of the basic salary and a reduction of guaranteed pay down from 60 hours to 45 hours.
Option 2: 7 days additionally off per month in a block, a 75% salary with a bigger reduction of those 45 hours pay.
This is purely voluntarily according to the company and only for 4 months (though the addendum that is to be signed does not mention a time limit, it is indefinite)
However if not sufficient volunteers can be found, people will be fired strictly according to seniority (which would be mostly newly Dash rated pilots).
makes sense? probably not.
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BT trouble
BT cant pay salary? why recruit so much this year and take on contractors?
Anyone who know the company comments on what happens now or what was said at the second meeting?
Anyone who know the company comments on what happens now or what was said at the second meeting?
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Something a little "deeper/fishier/more political " than can be divulged at a simple aircraft drivers meeting I think.
Contractors ? well who the hell else can you get, qualified and current to drive these things, at the prices airB pay on a permanent contract, & at short notice? so not much choice for them there. Recruitment ? well they were doing some of that just today, but how many of them won't have found pastures greener by next Spring, before they are given the "call" ? And, what about the newly recruited CabinCrew & Q400 drivers , no doubt rejoicing in their 4 mths of unpaid leave ? ?
Q400's Phaw! ! Bollox I say, crew trained, no airframe to fly, who is paying for the bleeders, (I mean the airframes) always tech, call out the "Boeing reserve crew", well Yeah, but you just laid them off, and dumped the relevant airframes in IST, Jeez, p1ssup/brewery ? well I hope not, I actually rather liked it here, and I would like to see it continue, but with a little less "Flickness" or do I blame the wrong side of the "partnership" ?
Potential to be a really good place to work, but for the moment seems to lack some "direction" IMHO. Bloody cold though, it snowed Fri & Sat night
Contractors ? well who the hell else can you get, qualified and current to drive these things, at the prices airB pay on a permanent contract, & at short notice? so not much choice for them there. Recruitment ? well they were doing some of that just today, but how many of them won't have found pastures greener by next Spring, before they are given the "call" ? And, what about the newly recruited CabinCrew & Q400 drivers , no doubt rejoicing in their 4 mths of unpaid leave ? ?
Q400's Phaw! ! Bollox I say, crew trained, no airframe to fly, who is paying for the bleeders, (I mean the airframes) always tech, call out the "Boeing reserve crew", well Yeah, but you just laid them off, and dumped the relevant airframes in IST, Jeez, p1ssup/brewery ? well I hope not, I actually rather liked it here, and I would like to see it continue, but with a little less "Flickness" or do I blame the wrong side of the "partnership" ?
Potential to be a really good place to work, but for the moment seems to lack some "direction" IMHO. Bloody cold though, it snowed Fri & Sat night
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Assessment
Hi,
today I got an email saying I was successful on the assessment last week.
They also wrote they will archive my profil and submit in a standby-pool, in order to contact me then a new vacancy will arise.
I ask the very nice HR-lady about this winter and next summer, and she said that BT are doing these assessments for the summerseason in a calm way.
This summer it was very hectic for them with a lot of assessments.
New courses in jan-feb.
/FO 737
today I got an email saying I was successful on the assessment last week.
They also wrote they will archive my profil and submit in a standby-pool, in order to contact me then a new vacancy will arise.
I ask the very nice HR-lady about this winter and next summer, and she said that BT are doing these assessments for the summerseason in a calm way.
This summer it was very hectic for them with a lot of assessments.
New courses in jan-feb.
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Hi FO737,
did you apply for the 737. I have got an offer letter for the Dash as DEC but have received no informations since weeks. No answers to mails. Did you talk to Daiga?
Jabulani
did you apply for the 737. I have got an offer letter for the Dash as DEC but have received no informations since weeks. No answers to mails. Did you talk to Daiga?
Jabulani
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I think you don't have an answer because they don't know what to tell you . . . . . . really! The Q400's are late, there are rumours about the Govt (recently politically realigned) not honouring their promises re finance for the new airframes ? ? certainly they have not arrived. Q400 colleagues are doing virtually no flying, even if Base Training of newbees was taking place only 1 week ago.
In short, there is some plan in the background (or perhaps the problem is No plan? or a plan that has been foiled ? ) and the HR Dept / Flt ops etc are as baffled as anyone else.
Something is brewing, and no-one knows if they will like how it tastes. I seriously wouldn't plan on an employment offer before May, but that could of course change as quickly as the wind.
In short, there is some plan in the background (or perhaps the problem is No plan? or a plan that has been foiled ? ) and the HR Dept / Flt ops etc are as baffled as anyone else.
Something is brewing, and no-one knows if they will like how it tastes. I seriously wouldn't plan on an employment offer before May, but that could of course change as quickly as the wind.
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I am a bit confused here. I got a email replay that they accepted my papers but that I am in a holding pool for the B737 positions since they was not hiring on that fleet at the moment. So does that mean that I am swimming to get an assessment? I thought they would first bring me for an assessment and then if I pass put me in a holding pool for the summer season or whatever..
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I would suggest no one knows whats going on at Baltic. Pilots this week told not enough accept pay cut and as result some pilot redundant over 4 month winter. Q400 pilots told no paycut, and new aircraft be here soon. so pilots on different pay, not going to work well.
Hold pool will mean nothing at Air Baltic. Just like all other airlines they look after only company. just something to tell you.
Company trouble with staff, with aircraft, airport problems with no bill paid and a slow winter forcast.
Bad winter ahead for Air Baltic.very bad.
Hold pool will mean nothing at Air Baltic. Just like all other airlines they look after only company. just something to tell you.
Company trouble with staff, with aircraft, airport problems with no bill paid and a slow winter forcast.
Bad winter ahead for Air Baltic.very bad.
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Captplaystation - do you know more details on what' s going on there now??? I'm curious caus have been asked for assesment but really don' t feel like " getting into trouble" by loosing job any time soon....
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I think any offer they would make you would be for the Springtime, so no need yet to resign from somewhere else.
Come springtime , if they make an offer you like and you are not happy where you are (or unemployed) come along. You will love it, at least till Winter comes again, and perhaps with it a pay-cut/unpaid leave ?
Nothing decided yet vis-a -vis 75% vs compulsory unpaid leave, and I will be gone before it is finalised, so you will have to ask someone else later.
Seriously, conspiracy theories apart, no-one seems able to explain/understand the sudden retrenchment, and most people have been here longer than me. So, if they don't understand what chance me?
Come springtime , if they make an offer you like and you are not happy where you are (or unemployed) come along. You will love it, at least till Winter comes again, and perhaps with it a pay-cut/unpaid leave ?
Nothing decided yet vis-a -vis 75% vs compulsory unpaid leave, and I will be gone before it is finalised, so you will have to ask someone else later.
Seriously, conspiracy theories apart, no-one seems able to explain/understand the sudden retrenchment, and most people have been here longer than me. So, if they don't understand what chance me?
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Hi all
Sorry for not answering for a while.
I haven't heard anything after the email saying I went to the holding pool.
Yes, the HR lady told me there are plans for new ground courses in jan-feb for 737.
But that can change quickly as we all know, so hold on to what you have for now.
Firestorm, have you heard anything?
Take care guys!
I haven't heard anything after the email saying I went to the holding pool.
Yes, the HR lady told me there are plans for new ground courses in jan-feb for 737.
But that can change quickly as we all know, so hold on to what you have for now.
Firestorm, have you heard anything?
Take care guys!
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That is how I would see it too.
One of the rumours doing the rounds is that most of Herr Flick/airBaltics recent success was due a close working relationship with a very airBaltic sympathetic & powerful Latvian politician (who wasn't re-elected) and Russian money (with a reputedly fairly anti-Russian Govt recently arriving in power)
Perhaps exaggerated/not 100% accurate, but it would certainly explain the negative direction adopted so soon after the recent elections despite previous very optimistic forecasts for Winter season.
Having said that, if you read through the whole of the 33 page thread in "Nordic Forums" you can see that this On Off On Off scenario is nothing new here, so perhaps we all read too much into what for them (& indeed much of aviation) passes for normal.
Chaos is standard, anything else is a bonus
One of the rumours doing the rounds is that most of Herr Flick/airBaltics recent success was due a close working relationship with a very airBaltic sympathetic & powerful Latvian politician (who wasn't re-elected) and Russian money (with a reputedly fairly anti-Russian Govt recently arriving in power)
Perhaps exaggerated/not 100% accurate, but it would certainly explain the negative direction adopted so soon after the recent elections despite previous very optimistic forecasts for Winter season.
Having said that, if you read through the whole of the 33 page thread in "Nordic Forums" you can see that this On Off On Off scenario is nothing new here, so perhaps we all read too much into what for them (& indeed much of aviation) passes for normal.
Chaos is standard, anything else is a bonus
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Going back for stage 2 of the interview. Happy with that. I suppose I'll have to wait and see if there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow though. But it's nice to think that someone thinks that I am worth it!