pilots stealing to survive?

[flyprototype]

have you seen pilots stealing form their company, or stealing sandwich from their plane?

I know ryanair don't want flight crews to recharge cell phone?
what can you steal in a cockpit?

[charlie83]

Terms and conditions in our industry have been dragged down enough as it is these days, do we really need posts like this that drag this web site down as well?

(If this was in originally posted in JetBlast..I might grasp the "humour")

[shaun ryder]

what can you steal in a cockpit?

Try the right hand seat. Expect to be robbed yourself though of anything up to 30 grand in the process.

[despegue]

taking home a crew meal or drink is not stealing my friend... We do it all the time and is normal. It is part of your overall salary package and is thrown away if not consumed and left in the aircraft.

[Nightfire]

taking home a crew meal or drink is not stealing my friend... We do it all the time and is normal. It is part of your overall salary package and is thrown away if not consumed and left in the aircraft.

Quite wrong. Anything you take out of the plane is stolen, no matter how worthless it may seem to be. Even if it's otherwise trash, including unused meals (unless you carry them inside your stomach).
Perhaps your airline doesn't mind, but I know of a case where somebody got fired for picking up the left-over chocolate bars from passengers' trays out of the galley.

[Banzai Eagle]

Pilot friend worked Iraqi Airways many moons ago. Didnt get paid so nicked somwthing expensive from the plane (747) followed by a swift exit of the country

[chin]

I grew up, knowing there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

I was teached wrong.

Chin

[Firestorm]

Despegue: check your contract and your staff handbook. You may well find that it is specifically forbidden to take anything from the aeroplane on pain of dismissal. My contract included that. If you can get away with it in your stomach all well and good, but many companies now charge for all refreshments except water.

[Birdy767]

Since it sounds "normal" in our industry to pay for a type rating, one day I like to steal an IRS panel, another day it s the APU and at the end it covers the costs. Fair enough, and thanks ebay...

[mutt]

Nothing written in our manuals..... it is considered "religiously forbidden" to waste food, therefore we "don't steal" it, we utilize it!

Look at the clear skin of our flight attendants and you will see where most of the cavier goes

but many companies now charge for all refreshments except water

How sad.... we are catered even for ferry flights

Mutt

[DERG]

Souvenirs

Well some important families have removed all the towels from the world's most important planes...the USAF presidential fleet... over the years..for souvenirs.

[Firestorm]

That's how close to the u-bend the lot of a pilot is in the UK Mutt. Regrettably.

[Sygyzy]

Nightfire,

I think you may find that you indeed are quite wrong. You'll find that anything put on board FOR YOU is yours to do with as you please. That doesn't include chocolate given to the passengers and then left behind. But if it's on your tray or whatever you may eat it, bin it trouser it, it or throw it in the trash-your choice-it's yours.

Ryanair and their silly ways of getting everyone to pay for everythng are, of course something else. Perhaps you should fly with the nav lights off so that the electricity saved could charge your phone. Barmy, and what a subject to be discussing

[Hudson Bay]

Sygyzy, You might joke about flying around with nav lights off (by Day) but Flybe already have that written into their SOP's. They calculate it saves them in the region of £70,000 per year. Not a bad idea if you ask me.

[VIRGA]

Ive heard that a particular low cost airline in the uk, not easy or ryanair, have now rewritten the pilot contract to reserve the right to frisk you and search your bags at any time whilst on duty. This is apparently done by a trained person....

Perhaps if these scumbag airlines started charging people an appropriate airfare and then paid the staff appropriate salaries then people would not feel the need to bolster their pitiful income.

I do not condone it but I am most certainly not suprised.

[Blue-Footed Boobie]

Some of the '18 something' self-type rated FO's might be hoping that their virginity gets stolen by one of the cabin crew?

[dwshimoda]

Hudson Bay...

Not a bad idea if you ask me.

How can you condone anything that reduces your visual footprint for such little gain? £70k pa against all their movements means it saves probably less than £1 per flight.

I can save more than that per flight through airmanship, and still have all my available lighting on to increase my visibility - TCAS is great, but I still like to look out the window, and believe in see and be seen.

[Wildpilot]

I have heard of quite allot of theft of late only the other week another flight crew had there dignity stolen by the airline, however due to the T&C's they had agreed to work under they had to just put up with it.

[PappyJ]

allot of theft of late only the other week another flight crew had there dignity stolen

Maybe I went to school in the wrong era, but Theft and Dignity are just not synonymous with each other. We are supposed to be Professionals. Don't morals mean anything anymore?

[A Comfy Chair]

If its provided for you and the company doesn't say you can't take it with you, then its not theft is it.

If, on the other hand, the company require you to pay for the item, or not take it with you, then it would be.

I'm lucky enough to work for one of the ones that says the food provided for your consumption is yours... you may eat it wherever you please. Whether or not it is edible at all is an entirely different story...