What does BALPA *actually* do?
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Oh Slim, you and Leo do speak some drivel sometimes.
This subject has been done to death.
Whenever anyone posts anything about what good BALPA has done, it just ends up being ignored, it is then followed by a twisting of facts and figures to suit your viewpoint. You just can't accept that for many of us the union does a great job.
This subject has been done to death.
Whenever anyone posts anything about what good BALPA has done, it just ends up being ignored, it is then followed by a twisting of facts and figures to suit your viewpoint. You just can't accept that for many of us the union does a great job.
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Slim,
Just sticking my nose into someone elses bun-fight, but I'm really curious about one thing: No denying FR pilots and contractors do pocket some serious coin, and I'm not interested in the whole what they pay for and what they don't thing. But, it's my impression that the serious coin isn't as serious as it was a couple of years ago, but FRs profits just keep growing. Surely that must seriously p%55 off the aforementioned pilots who obviously aren't that good at negotiating individually?
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Just sticking my nose into someone elses bun-fight, but I'm really curious about one thing: No denying FR pilots and contractors do pocket some serious coin, and I'm not interested in the whole what they pay for and what they don't thing. But, it's my impression that the serious coin isn't as serious as it was a couple of years ago, but FRs profits just keep growing. Surely that must seriously p%55 off the aforementioned pilots who obviously aren't that good at negotiating individually?
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explain to me Slim in your school of thought how can it be just when we have people from groups like ctc who can not afford to pay there rent and pay back there loan so therefore are having to default, when others are making so much money out of there misery,money they will probable be never able to spend it all in there life time
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gatbusdriver,
spell out the great job: Thomson...redundancies. baby...redundancies. bmi...redundancies. easy...cadets up in arms.........keep going!!!!!!!
I hear, time and time agan, BALPA IS THE PILOTS THE PILOTS ARE BALPA!!
Seems to me that you lot are a mealy mouthed, self serving bunch of liars, hypocrites and self serving pocket liners!
NB what your 40 Thieves are doing with BA: all the senior peeps deserting the sinking ship assisted by the 40 Thieves.
What are they doing for the members at GSM? I will tell you. The square root of sweet FA.
Tell me what your 40 Thieves are doing to resolve the situation with the 145 crews at bmi? Shouldn't have been there in the first place, but your 40 Thieves let it slip through. BLAPA agreement....MWAH HAH HAH.
You are paying 1% for the square root of sweet FA: unless you count lunch, C class travel and company cars.
Your blessed 40 Thieves have allowed the exploitation of the CTC cadets at easy: NB at FR we PAY our cadets.
So, dear boy, put your own house in order: when your BLAPA is 100% behind every last one you, come and tell me. Until then, keep paying your subs and come and moan when your expectations are blown to dust.
spell out the great job: Thomson...redundancies. baby...redundancies. bmi...redundancies. easy...cadets up in arms.........keep going!!!!!!!
I hear, time and time agan, BALPA IS THE PILOTS THE PILOTS ARE BALPA!!
Seems to me that you lot are a mealy mouthed, self serving bunch of liars, hypocrites and self serving pocket liners!
NB what your 40 Thieves are doing with BA: all the senior peeps deserting the sinking ship assisted by the 40 Thieves.
What are they doing for the members at GSM? I will tell you. The square root of sweet FA.
Tell me what your 40 Thieves are doing to resolve the situation with the 145 crews at bmi? Shouldn't have been there in the first place, but your 40 Thieves let it slip through. BLAPA agreement....MWAH HAH HAH.
You are paying 1% for the square root of sweet FA: unless you count lunch, C class travel and company cars.
Your blessed 40 Thieves have allowed the exploitation of the CTC cadets at easy: NB at FR we PAY our cadets.
So, dear boy, put your own house in order: when your BLAPA is 100% behind every last one you, come and tell me. Until then, keep paying your subs and come and moan when your expectations are blown to dust.
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Slim
We are in a deep recession. As a result of that, fuel prices, lack of funding/loans leeds to airlines going bust, making cut backs etc. You can't blame BALPA for redundancies. If a company was making people redundant, I would rather BALPA were involved than not.
Why? I hear you scream in one of your usual rude factless rants.
Well in our company, rather than let the management make people redundant how they saw fit, with the hard work put in by our CC, we ended up with eVR, part time working innitiatives and no CR. So you will find in a lot of companies, BALPA CC's try and minimise the impact of redundancies (this of course is of no comfort for those being made redundant, but BALPA can't just wave a magic wand and make it all ok).
As to your rude statement
Where do I begin. We have just voted through a pay deal that results in a pay freeze for a few years (because, as a reasonable union/membeship, we realise what state the industry is in). In place of a pay rise the CC negotiated command bridging for FO's, increased pension contributions into the money purchase scheme. I can only imagine how shocked you will be when I tell you that a lot of people who voted the deal through are LHS and on the final salary pension scheme, so did not benefit. Not too sure how your above quote fits in with that.
What else have our CC done? Prevented compulsory pay cuts, put an end to pay to fly schemes, negotiated pay rises in the past that were over and above the standard % they were offering non union groups in the company (the way I see it, these alone have made my membership effectively free), stopped CR's, limited the number of contract captains allowed. I could carry on.......but I'm sure you're not interseted.
I wish you, and all at FR the best, and seasons greetings.
Here's hoping you or your colleagues do not regret the lack of union representation.
We are in a deep recession. As a result of that, fuel prices, lack of funding/loans leeds to airlines going bust, making cut backs etc. You can't blame BALPA for redundancies. If a company was making people redundant, I would rather BALPA were involved than not.
Why? I hear you scream in one of your usual rude factless rants.
Well in our company, rather than let the management make people redundant how they saw fit, with the hard work put in by our CC, we ended up with eVR, part time working innitiatives and no CR. So you will find in a lot of companies, BALPA CC's try and minimise the impact of redundancies (this of course is of no comfort for those being made redundant, but BALPA can't just wave a magic wand and make it all ok).
As to your rude statement
Seems to me that you lot are a mealy mouthed, self serving bunch of liars, hypocrites and self serving pocket liners!
What else have our CC done? Prevented compulsory pay cuts, put an end to pay to fly schemes, negotiated pay rises in the past that were over and above the standard % they were offering non union groups in the company (the way I see it, these alone have made my membership effectively free), stopped CR's, limited the number of contract captains allowed. I could carry on.......but I'm sure you're not interseted.
I wish you, and all at FR the best, and seasons greetings.
Here's hoping you or your colleagues do not regret the lack of union representation.
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slim
You are avoiding the question let me put it in plain English
Do you agree that it is totally unacceptable that a few are becoming very rich at the expence of the many. Maybe we should start a new thread on this one.
In reply to your question should a fund be set up to support our colleagues at GSW I would match leos and your contributions.
You are avoiding the question let me put it in plain English
Do you agree that it is totally unacceptable that a few are becoming very rich at the expence of the many. Maybe we should start a new thread on this one.
In reply to your question should a fund be set up to support our colleagues at GSW I would match leos and your contributions.
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I don't think you will be hearing from The Real Slim Shady for a while. He seems to have been banned on here after his rantings on various threads late last night. The more extreme ones have been deleted whilst others remain so some posts may not make much sense.
I don't think he'll be much missed, except maybe by his pal Leo - or maybe he has been banned too...
I don't think he'll be much missed, except maybe by his pal Leo - or maybe he has been banned too...
Rather than fighting funds -unworkeable and unfeasible;for the pilots get those cvs out -flydubai,Turkish,Tarom,'a North African carrier'(Contractair),Jet2,Korean,Jet Airways,Air India Express,Oman Air(should be familiar for Globespan pilots),Qatar,Etihad,Ryanair and so on.
Not EDI/GLA but some of those jobs are commutable.
Sorry indeed for the state of play with GSM but good luck nevertheless.
atb
Not EDI/GLA but some of those jobs are commutable.
Sorry indeed for the state of play with GSM but good luck nevertheless.
atb
