CONDOR DEC Screening
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CONDOR DEC Screening
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I got an appointment for a DEC Screening with Condor on the 757. They remarked that they additionatly schedule a LOFT Session for DEC beside the standart Screening program .Does anyone already passed the sim ride and can pass a few information about the LOFT session and handling characteristics on the 757. Currently I´m with the 737. Thanks for your help.
Hoschi
I got an appointment for a DEC Screening with Condor on the 757. They remarked that they additionatly schedule a LOFT Session for DEC beside the standart Screening program .Does anyone already passed the sim ride and can pass a few information about the LOFT session and handling characteristics on the 757. Currently I´m with the 737. Thanks for your help.
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During a LOFT scenario, (unlike a handling assessment), be sure to make maximum use of the auto pilot and your First Officer, flying from either seat isn't difficult so what they are looking for is the ability to fly the aircraft, part one and command the operation, part two, or LOFT.
Typical scenarios are:
As you taxy out, with a slot time given, you get a route change and probably a runway change, do you a). try to handle it on the run or b). pull over, ask for extra time and set it all up, cross check and do it properly? (Answer b. regardless of protestations from 'ATC' (Your SIM instructor).
(should your SIM instructor say that if you pull over and re-programme you will lose your slot and be delayed two hours then you accept it! He/she is trying to pressure you into a decision, don't ever be pressured into a decision.) They won't be prepared to sit in the SIM for two hours doing nothing either!.
ATC advise you have a bomb on board. (Location, inside or wheel well bay etc?).
You have left a ton of rubber behind on the departing runway, are you heavy? is the weather closing in behind you?.
With all weather above minima for a hundred or so miles around, as you commence or continue descent on finals, say Outer Marker, you are advised that the actual weather has gone below your minima.
Critically ill passenger on board, (action will depend on stage of flight, location, qualified persons on board etc.). Could be coupled with weather going below minima, above.
Radio Failure a). Within controlled airspace and under positive radar control, as above but no positive radar control.
b). Outside controlled airspace.
Drunken PAX acting up, a). Before departure and b). After take off.
The LOFT exercise is all about assessing you thinking like a captain, decision making under 'pressure', not allowing yourself to be rushed but not allowing the operation to fall apart either. When the problem occurs it probably won't be technical, initially, could be the IFS handing you a piece of paper found in a toilet etc. etc.
You cannot expect to be 100% drilled in every scenario but if you just sit back and think through as many possible scenarios as you can and plan the common sense solution you probably won't go far wrong.
When you are given the details of your LOFT you will also be given a fair amount of other information, including a simple load sheet with simple errors etc. but they may not have given you all the TAFS that are relevant to your route. Classic example, MAN to LGW loads of TAFS but not Cardiff, guess which was the only airport to stay above your minima?
Nothing intended to trip you up, catch you out but just making sure that before they strap a multi million dollar aircraft, plus PAX to your arse, they can be satisfied that you are both prepared and able.
Typical scenarios are:
As you taxy out, with a slot time given, you get a route change and probably a runway change, do you a). try to handle it on the run or b). pull over, ask for extra time and set it all up, cross check and do it properly? (Answer b. regardless of protestations from 'ATC' (Your SIM instructor).
(should your SIM instructor say that if you pull over and re-programme you will lose your slot and be delayed two hours then you accept it! He/she is trying to pressure you into a decision, don't ever be pressured into a decision.) They won't be prepared to sit in the SIM for two hours doing nothing either!.
ATC advise you have a bomb on board. (Location, inside or wheel well bay etc?).
You have left a ton of rubber behind on the departing runway, are you heavy? is the weather closing in behind you?.
With all weather above minima for a hundred or so miles around, as you commence or continue descent on finals, say Outer Marker, you are advised that the actual weather has gone below your minima.
Critically ill passenger on board, (action will depend on stage of flight, location, qualified persons on board etc.). Could be coupled with weather going below minima, above.
Radio Failure a). Within controlled airspace and under positive radar control, as above but no positive radar control.
b). Outside controlled airspace.
Drunken PAX acting up, a). Before departure and b). After take off.
The LOFT exercise is all about assessing you thinking like a captain, decision making under 'pressure', not allowing yourself to be rushed but not allowing the operation to fall apart either. When the problem occurs it probably won't be technical, initially, could be the IFS handing you a piece of paper found in a toilet etc. etc.
You cannot expect to be 100% drilled in every scenario but if you just sit back and think through as many possible scenarios as you can and plan the common sense solution you probably won't go far wrong.
When you are given the details of your LOFT you will also be given a fair amount of other information, including a simple load sheet with simple errors etc. but they may not have given you all the TAFS that are relevant to your route. Classic example, MAN to LGW loads of TAFS but not Cardiff, guess which was the only airport to stay above your minima?
Nothing intended to trip you up, catch you out but just making sure that before they strap a multi million dollar aircraft, plus PAX to your arse, they can be satisfied that you are both prepared and able.
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Pardon my intrusion but may I thank you sincerely, on behalf of all reasonably minded PPRuNers, for the most straight forward and helpful response to a reasonable question from a fellow pilot, I have yet seen on these fora. It is all too rare.
Good luck and best wishes hoschi, you have been given some very sound advice here and you will find the B757 handling very intuitive indeed.
Good luck and best wishes hoschi, you have been given some very sound advice here and you will find the B757 handling very intuitive indeed.
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Okay Condor stopped further screenings because the transfer of Lufthansa pilots flying for Condor back to Lufthansa stopped. Depending on the situation they will continue in 3- 4 months.
