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Old 7th Jun 2009, 20:47
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Devil Aircraft still at Exeter ?

Regarding Efly, are the aircraft still at Exeter ?

There was certainly no 9H-ELE on the Maltese register at the end of May ../Department of Civil Aviation -
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Old 8th Jun 2009, 15:30
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Efly offered a friend of mine a contract, but the contract never arrived and nothing has been heard from the company.

Maybe AOC issue problems?
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Old 12th Jun 2009, 10:16
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From what I hear,Efly have been dissolved.There was an attempt to get the planes from Exeter to Malta,but you must have an AOC in order to be insured.
Lots of wool has been expended over eyes.
Dissolved 3rd april-/A/c for sale 4th April.Would be too late now for them to seek work even if they did get the AOC.
Is it true that Nex called it a day on wednesday 3rd June?I know they were not flying for a long time,but I thought they might get a chance with Arann.

Whats going to happen all of these 146 aircraft?,they were an excellent workhorse!,even if not every pilots fave.
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Old 12th Jun 2009, 12:35
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Dissolved 3rd april-/A/c for sale 4th April
I'm sorry but that is complete bollocks. They had two friends of mine in the sim a few weeks ago - late May - which would be a pretty surprising if the company had been dissolved six weeks earlier. You should really check your facts before posting stuff like that.

There was an attempt to get the planes from Exeter to Malta,but you must have an AOC in order to be insured.
Not true either. Positioning flights can be carried out as private ops, all you would need would be temporary insurance and that would normally be carried by the lessor or by the previous owner. You don't need an AOC for a private op. Even if you did, the positioning flight would normally be done by the lessor or previous owner, as mentioned above.

Is it true that Nex called it a day on wednesday 3rd June?I know they were not flying for a long time,but I thought they might get a chance with Arann.
Don't know, but sounds pretty likely. I still can't see any reason why Aer Arann would want to get into bed with Nex.

It's a pity if it is true, Nex was showing a lot of promise at one time.
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Old 12th Jun 2009, 13:56
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From a good source, I'm told that Efly is indeed moving forward, and should begin operations in the near future.
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Old 12th Jun 2009, 22:05
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Whats going to happen all of these 146 aircraft?,they were an excellent workhorse!,even if not every pilots fave.
I am sure they will migrate to the 'less developed' world! She is a lovely aircraft but the only thing that will let it down in the more remote parts is its limited range. She will struggle with payload/range when your diversion airfield is hundreds of miles away, something which is largely alien to what it is used to at the moment!
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Old 14th Jun 2009, 04:51
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but .... that is what is was designed to do.... a DC3 replacement.

There are few airliners where one can look at a field and say ... I could get in there.

In design terms what it has been doing over the past 20 years was window dressing .
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Old 14th Jun 2009, 11:39
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If you could have the density of airfields that you have in Europe/US etc in the developing world then the old BAe 146 would be fine.

Last night my nearest diversion airfield was 504nm. With only 50 pax then loading enough fuel was not an issue and could just be done. However with a busy load on such a route, we either restrict the payload and carry diversion fuel or if the criteria are met, we set off without a nominated diversion with a strip in the middle of the desert being the 'alternate' should we need one, yet we can't file it as such. Of course, all of that would be done in CAVOK condition of course!

The only way that an operator could get round such a situation is to bend or ignore the rules. As time goes on then it will be inevitable that this will probably be more widespread as the aircraft migrates to more 'colourful' places!
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Old 14th Jun 2009, 17:11
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Afternoon all,

Just going back to the Aer Arann aspect, is there any news on this e.g. when the operation would begin, routes etc.? Seems like a very short rushed exercise trying to get the aircraft type into the fleet for this summer.

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P2C

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Old 15th Jun 2009, 13:18
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The simple answer is that in all probability, no-one knows. I doubt the Nex principals know yet themselves. There is nothing on the RE website about it, and that is where you will probably read about it first.

If RE are going to put the 146 on their AOC, it is too late for this season and they will probably take their time doing it over the winter. In other words, not much is likely to happen for a while.
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Old 15th Jun 2009, 16:20
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Hi remoak,

Agree with you, sounds like it's more a long term thing. Sounds like they may be planning for a brighter 2010. Although whether an early production BAe146 is the way forward is another question.

Cheers,

P2C
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Old 18th Jun 2009, 16:40
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BAe 146 9H-ELE (the former G-JEBG) was flown to Malta yesterday, so Efly seems to be moving closer to starting ops.
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Old 7th Jul 2009, 16:12
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Efly

Well the Head of Training has left, apparently the Head of Engineering as well. Much confusion, some pilots staying and some leaving. Whole thing now looks like a giant mess!

Anyone know any more?
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 19:34
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Any activity in the 146/RJ world of late?
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 00:33
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Seems pretty quiet out there. Might be a bit of movement at Astra. Efly seem to have started operations. Nex were trying to start up again, not sure if that ever happened. Other than that, most of the 146 activity now is in the Third World.
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 03:25
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Why limit yourself to the left seat of the RJ? Look for other airlines will to offer you a new type rating......

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Old 17th Oct 2009, 13:52
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Feel for you guys.

I hit the market after 9/11 as an FO 146, 3,200 on type and 10,000 total (not unusual in Australia), and no job to be had and no international experience.

Came to the sandpit and in less than three years, left seat 777.

There are other opportunities than the jumbolino

halas

ps. Good luck!
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 00:10
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yeah but you have to live in the sandpit and fly long-haul... no thanks!
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 04:37
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You could move to the sandpit and fly short haul whilst getting a nice A320 rating 3 years later, move back to Europe!

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Old 18th Oct 2009, 19:40
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Firstly l can't move back to "the EU" as l am not from there and honestly, wouldn't want to live there.

Secondly, after doing multi-leg domestic short-haul as an FO on the 146, one-sector-a-day in a 777 as a captain is just fine with me.

Thirdly, living in the pit is not so bad at all. Being out of work for nine months with two kids under two years old prior to getting this gig...now that was bad!

I could be "doing it tough" in a lot worse places than this........

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