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Old 13th Mar 2009, 13:00
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Finnair placing pilots on unpaid leave

Press Release this morning:
"Finnair is to place its pilots on unpaid leave as a consequence of a change in flight schedules. The periods of leave, of at least one week, will be implemented as of mid-April. The reduction in human resources will vary
depending on the aircraft type.
“In the present climate of demand, flight schedules and the requirement for unpaid leave are being monitored regularly,” says Veikko Sievänen, Senior Vice President, Flight Operations Division.

The measures cover at this stage some 700 pilots and are part of a 30 million euro savings package being implemented by the Flight Operations Division."
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Funny, thought from what I read on here that Ryanair was the only company in the world that did this.
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This is just the start of unpaid leave for pilots in all airlines.. you drivers need to stick up for yourselves before you end up paying to use the toilets on flights!
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Speak for yourself cptdivz... there are some contries where aviation is doing very well and I am not referring to the Middle East either!
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Hmmm unpaid leave... is that the new buzz word for furlough?

Just like used cars... there is no such thing as a used car... it's "pre-owned"

Take a number folks and some one will be with you in say... 2 or 3 years?
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furlough is not a word in general use in the UK, or I guess Europe.
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True my friend there are certain airlines who are treating their pilots reasonably well however the majority of inexperienced pilots in the EU are clearly being exploited.. and perhaps some senior pilots.. Perhaps its time for someone to stick up for pilots before this gets even more out of hand.. paying for type rating.. paying for line training.. its nonsense and it is just not fair for people who invest so much effort (and money) in training.. airlines might as well use off duty pilots for cabin crew to save even more money!
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Well, that has been done in the past. At one time British Airways trained more Cadets than they could utilise & many of these young guys accepted to spend some time in the back rather than a period of unemployment.
I imagine some of the younger female CC were quite appreciative to have the company of a man working alongside who was "interested" . . . . plus ca change
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Lufty was doing the same at some point (i think it was in the earlie 90ies). Up to two years before they got a job and quite a few worked in the back during that time.

I have to say though that a period of one week unpaid leave would be called forced part time work over here. One of the first things unions offer in my experience.
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I wondering where this will go ? It is effectively a pay cut….

The BA and Lufthansa cadets in the early 90s was a little different in comparison with this current method of cost cutting.

If I remember correctly the cadets had not yet really flown commercially and were sponsored from the beginning. At the time the promise of a career in a national carrier with the benefits and opportunities which come from doing so may have warranted some time in the company other than on the flight deck.

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in the long run, isn't a week of 'unpaid' vacation with full benefits intact (medical, travel, etc.), better than an overall pay cut, or completely losing one's job? At least your $$/worked hr. actual pay is unchanged.
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Looks like a month unpaid leave for all staff at Cathay Pacific

Cathay Pacific cuts flights and asks staff to take unpaid leave - Telegraph
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Once again, it looks like Ryanair are leading the field and the national carriers are just starting to catch up!
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