No annual leave for 6 months for Ryanair pilots

[Aldente]

Latest memo from FR management, (once again,without discussion or negotiation), informs all Ryanair pilots on a permanent contract that they can bid for leave for the months of April 2009, then Nov 2009 and Jan/Feb/Mar 2010 only.

For the 6 month summer period between end of April to beginning of Nov, no leave can be applied for .....

[Mr Angry from Purley]

yuk no serious time off with kids = d i v o r c e and a lot of leave to take in 4 months of the winter, suggests serious amounts of aircraft on deck?. Makes Jet2's week in the summer look attractive

[Norman Stanley Fletcher]

I genuinely feel for Ryanair employees. They are treated like scum by their dire employer. Tragically most of them chose not to spend the 1% required to join BALPA and coincidentally this is happening to them. Maybe there is some sort of strange connection between organised labour and better terms and conditions. Might I humbly suggest that you could point to every single company who works around the UK and make a direct comparison of their terms and conditions against their percentage relative membership?

[Birdy767]

http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...us-pilots.html

[SmokeAndNoise]

Norman,

It seems to me the only difference between ryan and easy here is that it's official and out in the open @ ryan. I'd rather have it like that. ...Don't know, maybe the leave situation differs between bases in easy but no-one I spoke to here in Italy has had leave granted over the summer and there's no availability until Oct/Nov. Great!

[leeds 65]

To any brookfield lads and gals :

Is this 6 month leave ban applicable to Brookfield contracters as well?

[The Real Slim Shady]

Of course some pilots will not want or need leave during school holidays so April and November, Jan and feb suit them: ski-ing, Far East and Caribbean are fine then.

[Boeing 7E7]

....but that's not the point.

[Norman Stanley Fletcher]

SmokeAndNoise - I can only speak for myself and immediate colleagues with confidence. Nonetheless I can say that I have received 2 periods of summer leave. The first was the one I requested and the second a week later. As importantly, we have an agreed protocol (not one that was imposed) and that was stuck religiously to.

[Rhodes13]

NSF unfortunately BALPA shot itself in the foot by first splitting the pilot body into two much like our company does and then has pissed about for the best part of 6 months with just hot air coming from them(endless meetings to bitch and moan with no progress ever achieved). I was a BALPA member but got frustrated at the hot air sessions and then the final straw was them wanting me to hand a letter in saying that no contractor should fly whilst RYR pilots were given leave. This despite me telling them that I was a contractor and refusing to get a ruling on the legality of the whole brookfield thing.

I'm happy for the easy guys and hope you can defend yourself from buy to fly things and summer only commands which haven't reached us yet, but saying that BALPA will cure all our ills is a bit naive especially seeing as BALPA has been dropping the ball of late (Local contracts for the easy boys in Madrid?)!

[Rhodes13]

I must be wrong if Clara is agreeing with me

Clara what happens if you don't get into another airline? Who know when these airlines will hire and surely if it works at one airline others will copy it.

We should all strive to improve our conditions at work and not prostitute ourselves out. Unlike you I don't consider 1000 per month to be a fair pay considering the amount of money I have invested in this. I think I'm worth slightly more than a McDonald's worker.

As for you I think other people have put it better than I have but you my dear are a troll!

[Capt Ted Crilly]

clara

i think she is more like an emu rhodes13, you know bird that cant fly and all that!!!!!!


my jackets already on

[HundredPercentPlease]

Originally Posted by SmokeandNoise

It seems to me the only difference between ryan and easy here is that it's official and out in the open @ ryan. I'd rather have it like that.

2 blocks bang in the middle of summer (at easy) for me. You do talk .

[Tooloose]

Well, if that's a true reflection of the type of people joining what we used to think of as our profession, then I'm glad I'll soon be reaching the end of my road. Those of you who will be fighting to protect standards have a difficult enough task dealing with the likes of MOL. However, having a whole generation of Flying Claras in your ranks would make it intolerable. I hope she is just a figment of her own imagination. In the meantime, the very best of luck to those of you who still have the courage and character to stand up for yourselves.

[GGFFB]

Clara

In this thread you state:

Easy jet is downgrading our terms and conditions, but it's still a good company for getting a first experience (which is the most important for all of us). Once you have hours you leave it and go to a good company (like BA, VS, Quatar, Ethihad, Emirates, Gulf air etc..).

Yet in the farcical Eazyjet (sic) news thread you started you claimed you'd be happy to spend your entire career with U2

And as for this....

Those people working at Mc Donald would LOVE to fly an airliner seated in a confortable seat all the day, engaging the autopilot, and turning , climbing or descending excatly where the ATC controller want us to go, the only task is to let the autopilot, turn the hdg or alt switches to select want you want, and then read the newspaper, drink coffee and wait.

After a statement like that the very idea you might one day end up sitting at the pointy end of a commercial airliner is very worrying to say the least

[Capt Ted Crilly]

emu was the wrong bird..........

in post 14 i made reference to the emu, doing it a great disservice with my comparision to the flying one.....

i think i really should have referenced the dodo,now extinct, as will our profession if kindergarten klara with that mindset get up the front......

i just hope my lottery numbers come up soon

[wobble2plank]

Not wishing to hijack the thread into a Clara bashing thread but!

Yes I would like to earn more but nowdays it is impossible, aviation has change and you take it...or you leave it

seems a little away from the dreamers quote on the 'hold pool thread':

Our first dream is to fly an airbus, the rest, it's only money.
To me, 2000 quids a month is more than enough to live very well and go out with friends. If I was interested in making money I would have worked in the finance industry.

Worse continuity than an old Ronald Reagen film!

p.s. 2 weeks in the middle of the kids summer holidays with wrap days before and after giving a total of 22 days hols in August! See you in the Caribbean!

Good luck with the hols!

W2P

[ICING AOA]

p.s. 2 weeks in the middle of the kids summer holidays with wrap days before and after giving a total of 22 days hols in August! See you in the Caribbean!

It's raining in the caribbean between July and October

[wobble2plank]

I know, keeps the cost of the kids showers down!

[Ollie268]

"Those people working at Mc Donald would LOVE to fly an airliner seated in a confortable seat all the day, engaging the autopilot, and turning , climbing or descending excatly where the ATC controller want us to go, the only task is to let the autopilot, turn the hdg or alt switches to select want you want, and then read the newspaper, drink coffee and wait"

Yes because of course it really is that easy...