AQIS Boigu

Lluke, is that the one in HKG???

Donkey Duke

Drfaust,

Which plane do you fly at Luxair? The Dash, ERJ, or 737?

d192049d

Listen to yourselves.......there is Mikey Kaye with every decision in his working day potentially life threatening, dealing with real people and real lives and you lot out there earning twice what he does for 1/3rd of the hours worked....absolutley obcene amount of money for sitting up the front of a bus managing systems and punching buttons.

Dont tell me any different you are all spolit rotten in an industry that is on its knees. Believe me I know what I am talking about....24 years Long haul Cabin crew...Purser with a UK Major and a few hundred hours as a PPL....

Dont get me wrong...when he Sh** hits the fan [Hudson River] you earn your money...but per hours flown you are overpaid....Call me a doctor I feel sick!

SEAMASTER

No we are not overpaid and you do not know what you are talking about having not achieved the CPL/ATPL, Thankyou.

CaptainProp

24 years long haul obviously had its impact.

Guzzler

Hahaha - what a bitter man.

fiveo

Go and ask BA who they think are overpaid? Pilots or the senior LH cabin crew

drfaust

Sorry you never got passed being a trolleydolley and always envy those that are twice as young, earn three times your salary and bear a greater amount of responsibility from day one on the job. (Which is exactly the reason why they earn more)

Musn't be easy to look at but be a sport and suck it up.


Always gives me a tickle when CC want to start comparing our job vs. anything out there and saying that ours is an easy buck in comparison. Walk the walk if it's so easy is my suggestion.

AN56

Try Jordan Aviation, you get the chance to work for free, not knowing anything about roster or time off, and no trouble with perks.

d192049d

Oh joy...light the blue touch paper and stand well clear....arrogance and ego incoming...

Clandestino

Ignore the troll. Its contribution to discussion was absolutely worthless but it got what it wanted - your reaction.

Back to topic:

Central Europe based Q400 capt nets 2200 €/month
SE Europe based Q400 capt (me) nets 2900 €/month
Western Europe based Q400 F/O nets 4000€/month

Market economics at work or what?

zumzum

EZY SFO spanish contract:
bad month 5000eur, good month 5.700/almost 6.000.
Fixed roster, 5 on 3 off, 5 on, 4 off.
36 days leave.
Performance bonus 10%
Loyalty bonus (after 2nd year in my case) 5%.
Company SOP are strict and not always I'm having fun with the weirdo next to me...
average hrs 75/80

Cavallier

"I am sure the BA captains will start feeling better again when the GBP goes up, meanwhile I will buy them a beer in Dusk til Dawn... "


I don't know, 78 bucks for a Stella when I pitched up there at 2 in the mornig the other day!!!!

The Cav

blackred1443

zumzum

Do you really get a 10% performance bonus plus the 5% loyalty each year?

OPEN DES

I will answer for zumzum, yes we do. Although performance bonus entitlement is a function of company performance. Loyalty bonus cannot be touched.

ezy A320 SFO Spain

Basic: 75600 euro/year
Performance bonus 2009: 7560 euro/year
Loyalty bonus (5%): 3780 euro/year
Flight Duty Pay: +-8000 euro/year

So we gross around 95000 euro/yr

Take-home pay after tax is 4700 euro basic plus 500-1200 euro Flightpay.

Roster is as mentioned by zumzum. 36 bookable holidays means:
book 5 days get 4+5+3=12 days. So effectively we get 7 blocks of 12 days off per year with one single day left.

Not leaving for greener pastures at the moment.

blackred1443

thanks for that

2 questions

What is the performance pay based on?Is it just if the company turns a profit however small.

Have you heard of much expansion at MAD to come, the transfer waiting list doesnt seem that long

OPEN DES

The union has negotiated our bonus-targets are the same as for management. Each year those will be adjusted.
Knowing that management will take good care of themselves I think personally it would not be too difficult to get our full perf. bonus each year.
Interesting to note that this year even with a loss we would have been entitled to half our perf. bonus, i.e. 5%. I believe this year our full 10% perf. bonus was matched to only a 4-5 mln. pound profit.

drfaust

@Donkey

It doesn't matter as our basic salary is determined on years of service and not the type of aircraft you fly.

In reality they earn a little bit more on the boeing because you normally end up on the boeing after a couple of years as FO on the Embraer or Q400. They also tend to get more Sundays/Night hours, etc. So in reality they earn more, but it's insignificant. The captains have a completely different salary scale where quite a significant jump is made once they go on the 737.

faust

PS: Clandestino, you're right, shouldn't feed the troll.

Jimmy Hoffa Rocks

Open Des or
could anyone tell us what the net take home pay of a Easyjet capt Mad

Do you find the sector pay better than flight hours ?

How much is base rather than variable pay for Capts ?


thanks

OPEN DES

All the numbers are on Untitled Document. Sectorpay (dieta) is the same for FO/SFO/CAPT, not very high. But basic is relatively high which is good given the number of days off we've got.
Any more questions, feel free to PM.