Cityjet Loosing Money
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From: london
!!!! pay, !!!! roster, !!!! salary, !!!! atmosphere with cabin crew, !!!! airplane (or moped), !!!! base, !!!! captains, sit rostering, !!!! financial situation...
SSS I'm only SLF but what captain would want you in a demanding situation?
SSS I'm only SLF but what captain would want you in a demanding situation?
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Hey Chips101, good one, hit the nail on the head, but he does make me laugh tho'
this guy really should be in a home somewhere.
Rubymurray, welcome aboard!! I think you'll love Cityjet as much as me, the groundschool/training is as hard and demanding as anywhere else, you've got to put the bookwork in, but once signed off the flying is great. You'll love flying the
RJ.
this guy really should be in a home somewhere.
Rubymurray, welcome aboard!! I think you'll love Cityjet as much as me, the groundschool/training is as hard and demanding as anywhere else, you've got to put the bookwork in, but once signed off the flying is great. You'll love flying the
RJ.
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From: Samsonite Avenue
sexseasun... are you seriously saying that Swiftair is a better company than Cityjet? 
Now remind me - which major airline owns Swiftair again.....???
Yes an old 737-300 freighter fleet that is nearly 20 years old and double the age of CityJet's RJ85 machines - need I say any more?
I don't mind someone taking the pi55 out of an airline but for someone from a mickey mouse ACMI airline to slate Cityjet is just laughable really! Chip on the shoulder or what?
Now remind me - which major airline owns Swiftair again.....???
I am on B737 in my sunny country
I don't mind someone taking the pi55 out of an airline but for someone from a mickey mouse ACMI airline to slate Cityjet is just laughable really! Chip on the shoulder or what?
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From: I wish I knew
A personal matter
Hi everyone!
don't even waste your time with this character, he's got a serious problem with wx, he's just started this thread to create controversy. I don't know...he says he's never applied to...hmmm
well then his girlfriend cheated him with a wx pilot? the thing is that as somebody said the guy is so proud of working for a 3rd class cargo co, having paid more than one tr (if it's true that he's in the 37) and flying in who knows what conditions (parrot on the shoulder) that he feels sorry for us, poor wx employees! why don't you tell us about your salary or your roster? then perhaps we'd understand why you consider wx such a sh**. otherwise do us a favour: get lost!
thanks mate!
PS: now you can carry on with your limited collection of nice words!
don't even waste your time with this character, he's got a serious problem with wx, he's just started this thread to create controversy. I don't know...he says he's never applied to...hmmm
well then his girlfriend cheated him with a wx pilot? the thing is that as somebody said the guy is so proud of working for a 3rd class cargo co, having paid more than one tr (if it's true that he's in the 37) and flying in who knows what conditions (parrot on the shoulder) that he feels sorry for us, poor wx employees! why don't you tell us about your salary or your roster? then perhaps we'd understand why you consider wx such a sh**. otherwise do us a favour: get lost!thanks mate!
PS: now you can carry on with your limited collection of nice words!
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From: dublin
Rubymurray,
Read what u want but you must make up your own mind.I was with Cityjet and left for all the right reasons for me.
I know all jobs are different and not all will suit every individual but one that someone else hates maybe your dream job.
I wont promote or deride Cityjet here but if you are looking for a first job,look for yourself dont just accept what you read here.
To balance what I said above I wont be looking to go back but having said that I know people who are very happy there.
Read what u want but you must make up your own mind.I was with Cityjet and left for all the right reasons for me.
I know all jobs are different and not all will suit every individual but one that someone else hates maybe your dream job.
I wont promote or deride Cityjet here but if you are looking for a first job,look for yourself dont just accept what you read here.
To balance what I said above I wont be looking to go back but having said that I know people who are very happy there.
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From: UK
For the record...
Slightly off thread... but to the guys that are sticking the blade into contract cargo ops...
I've worked for RYR and EZY...I now work for one of the above... It's not everybody's cup of tea I'm sure but I'm far happier being paid 89000 Euros a year, flying 8 - 9 days a month (fixed roster) and doing 25 - 30 hours flying a month. Horses for courses as they say...Oh and most of our FO's want to leave because there is no realistic hope of a LHS but they can't AFFORD to...
BTY, Cityjet is a nice company, with nice people.... so the whinger should bugger off and let someone who would be a bit more grateful ( and a touch more positive to be around) have his seat..
I've worked for RYR and EZY...I now work for one of the above... It's not everybody's cup of tea I'm sure but I'm far happier being paid 89000 Euros a year, flying 8 - 9 days a month (fixed roster) and doing 25 - 30 hours flying a month. Horses for courses as they say...Oh and most of our FO's want to leave because there is no realistic hope of a LHS but they can't AFFORD to...
BTY, Cityjet is a nice company, with nice people.... so the whinger should bugger off and let someone who would be a bit more grateful ( and a touch more positive to be around) have his seat..
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From: Horsham, West Sussex
First Officers take home 2000 Euro's a month?? Pah I'm a second officer and took double that this month on a 6-3 roster, and never less then around 3300 Euro's. Sure WX isn't perfect but i'm one of many happy LCY based pilots. A loss over the last financial year isn't surprising with a new fleet, a new base, and the acquisition of Scot Airways and VLM. As for 2/2 crew, it maybe to save money but we're just falling into line with our Swiss/BA Cityflyer competitor's who have been doing the same for some time... I'm sure the majority of European operator's are tightening the belt to survive the rough times, WX are hardly unique in this respect.
Some people will always find something to complain about no matter who they work for, but the rest of us just ignore the miserable sods and get on with enjoying the job.
Some people will always find something to complain about no matter who they work for, but the rest of us just ignore the miserable sods and get on with enjoying the job.
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From: in my country
that is 2000 euros basic, 3300 when you fly like a slave in the avro doing nightsoppings all the time in airport hotels with no food included (that is why you have those allowants). so this is actually a 3300 euros to which you have to spend lot of money for eating in your hotel.
Once again this information come from friends there, and they call this company "!!!!YJET"
Mister greeze I saw an AVRO 10 000ft bellow my aircraft last day during cruise, and of course we overtook it very quickely maybe it was one of "!!!!YJET"
Good luck my friends as soon as the crisis stops you will be able to get of of that !!!!y airline/airliner..
Once again this information come from friends there, and they call this company "!!!!YJET"
Mister greeze I saw an AVRO 10 000ft bellow my aircraft last day during cruise, and of course we overtook it very quickely maybe it was one of "!!!!YJET"
Good luck my friends as soon as the crisis stops you will be able to get of of that !!!!y airline/airliner..
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From: UK sometimes
to seasun and probably no sex,
city may be spelt city, but !!!!y is actually spelt !!!!ty.
Neither spelling of the word applies to cityjet.
Fact is, either you are a total prat or your trying (very trying) to be funny..
i will let others decide.
city may be spelt city, but !!!!y is actually spelt !!!!ty.
Neither spelling of the word applies to cityjet.
Fact is, either you are a total prat or your trying (very trying) to be funny..
i will let others decide.
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From: Horsham, West Sussex
I've already made my own mind up about this fella, and he is about funny as he is literate. 3300 is a bad month, I am on minimum overnights also. Seasexsun if you want to fly chinese rubber dog!!!! across Europe in an ancient Boeing be my guest. I really didn't want to bite as you're a fairly pathetic guy and deserve sympathy and help, not abuse, but I will bite, get off Cityjet's case and get a life, i'm not surprised your girlfriend cheated on you with one of our pilot's, i'm sure they are a better person then you'll ever be.
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From: Samsonite Avenue
Mister greeze I saw an AVRO 10 000ft bellow my aircraft last day during cruise, and of course we overtook it very quickely maybe it was one of "!!!!YJET"
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From: on the dark side of the moon!
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"A loss over the last financial year isn't surprising with a new fleet, a new base, and the acquisition of Scot Airways and VLM"
unquote.
Scot Airways...surely not...SA is contracted by WX, not owned by WX.
"A loss over the last financial year isn't surprising with a new fleet, a new base, and the acquisition of Scot Airways and VLM"
unquote.
Scot Airways...surely not...SA is contracted by WX, not owned by WX.
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From: back of the crew bus
Publically criticising an airline you don't work for and have no first-hand knowledge of... the mark of a true moron.
Probably a spotty know-nothing F/O who got turned down by Cityjet sometime in the past.
Probably a spotty know-nothing F/O who got turned down by Cityjet sometime in the past.
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From: Bear Island
sss .... whatever your gripe with the company ... you have a huge attitude problem, demonstrated here and with previous postings.
Life is really too short .. you should get out more
Life is really too short .. you should get out more
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From: LONDON
We see a lot of airline bashing throughout this forum, predominantly through personal vendettas and bitterness. What still flabbergasts me is to the extent that these so called aviators will criticise aircraft themselves. For the tools that have an issue with BAe146/Avro RJ, could you really design, manufacture and certify an aircraft to such a standard 
. The 146/RJ was built for a specific purpose, which it does extremely well. It is relatively efficient, complies with noise regulations, and for aircraft that stopped production in 2001, there is still no competitor of its size that operates into short airfields and with steep approach paths.
This is the company that brought the world Concorde, the Sea Harrier, and have been involved in the Typhoon and F35.. they are at the cutting edge of aeronautical innovation.. you are a bunch of idiotic simpletons!
. The 146/RJ was built for a specific purpose, which it does extremely well. It is relatively efficient, complies with noise regulations, and for aircraft that stopped production in 2001, there is still no competitor of its size that operates into short airfields and with steep approach paths. This is the company that brought the world Concorde, the Sea Harrier, and have been involved in the Typhoon and F35.. they are at the cutting edge of aeronautical innovation.. you are a bunch of idiotic simpletons!