Working day off payments stopped at Ryanair !

[Aldente]

Notice in the STN crewroom just appeared :-

"IF ANY CAPTAIN WOULD LIKE TO WORK THEIR DAY OFF THIS WEEKEND PLEASE SPEAK TO SOMEONE IN STN OPS. Please note there will be no woff payment. THANKS!! "

So now we get £0 for working a day off, to help the company out !

How much does your company pay ? ..................

[Eff Oh]

Well you know what to do then..........Don't work on days off. Simple.

[zuz]

What is all the more outrageous about this turn of events is that every pilot in Stn is being allocated unpaid leave due to 'excess' capacity!!!

[Tooloose]

Seems very odd. However, no doubt one of the usual suspects will be along shortly to explain why it is good for you and that you should be grateful for whatever crumbs you get from the rich man's table.

[seasexsun]

Well you know what to do then..........Don't work on days off. Simple.

if you start to play this kind of game with Ryanair, then Ryanair will play with you and you will stay at home all the month doing stand by... wich mean zero euro salary..

[Clandestino]

My company? What RYR started now, we've been doing since 1991!

[kick the tires]

if you start to play this kind of game with Ryanair, then Ryanair will play with you and you will stay at home all the month doing stand by... wich mean zero euro salary..

But they need pilots to fly - not all can be given a zero fly roster! And by the sounds of it they need everyone they can get.

[seasexsun]

Ryanair is full of applicants, and has too many pilots at the moment. If they need a FO, they just clap their hands in any flightschool, if they need a captain there are plenty of asslicker FOs willing to be a captain.
No problem for Ryanair.

[Fifty Above]

... no, sounds more like they've inadvertently taken on some ex-easyJet rosterers.

[zerotohero]

Is there a bit missing to this info?

Are you saying Brookfield guys getting called into fly for zero?

or

Ryanair Contract guys getting no extra salary but get sector pay only

or

Ryanair Contract guys getting NOTHING AT ALL?

and is this just Captains and not F/O's??? and if so why not F/O's???

[Aldente]

For clarification, Ryanair contracted pilots (not Brookfield) have (had ?!) a working agreement that states that any pilot working a day off will be paid £230 in addition to their normal basic salary and sector pay for that day. The notice specified Captains as that's who they are usually short of ....

[curser]

Aldente,forgive the ignorance, can they expect volunteers?
I'm sure they can be very persuasive on any targeted individual but what normally happens when they get no volunteers? Is this uncharted territory or is this a regular occurrence? I suspect it is indeed bliss.

[reamer]

Their problem is that they can't be seen to be paying people to work their days off while they have staff on forced unpaid leave.
If precedent is set this year for unpaid leave, it opens up the ability to work you to your 900 hr limit and then give you unpaid leave for the remainder of the year.

[45989]

awaiting the next set of results...........

Tough times

[Dries v.d. Tillaard]

Am I mistaken in thinking that reamers's scenario might not be that far fetched?

Whenever I have an offday @work I just have to read some of the topics on Pprune and then thank #God/Allah/Johan Cruijf/Jah/fill in your own deity here # on my bare knees I don't work for an outfit with nothing but utter contempt for its employees..

[curser]

Weekend is almost over, were there problems maintaining the schedule? Is the STN OPS office door still standing? one day, eh?

[BongleBear]

probably just ops/crew control testing the water. i heard a few months back that they were going to get rid of f/o's working day off payments, but everytime they called one up they were asked 'will i get the payment?'. response was sometimes 'not sure' and they said no. they know people need the flying at the moment, especially in stn due to the allocated unpaid leave.
if people take them up on the offer then expect it to happen on a regular basis. there'll be a list in crew control's little office of those idiots who will work days off and deny themselves and everyone else the £230.
for those who were asking, we should get £230 per day off worked, capt's and fo's the same.

easy way to stop it happening, i think the kids on grange hill said it best:
'Just Say No'.

[inveritas]

I asked PB directly about this in STN on Friday - and he said that if you work a day off - you get paid a working day off payment - simple as that. He said that Brookfield pilots get paid as normal their hourly rate - but nothing extra - if they work on an off day. There was a queue of pilots and he would not answer any other questions I had about SIMS or crewing in STN. He said to put it in writing. So I will get the WOFF in writing.

[DutchBird-757]

For us it's a set calculation based on your (gross) yearly salary. The longer you've been with the company, thus the more you earn, the more you get paid. All laid down in our Schedueling agreement. All in addition to the normal basic salary and sector pay for that day.

If you're then disrupted during that day you get a disruption payment on top of it. (half a day off payment) All bounded by set rules and regulations. I'm only with the company for 2 years as F/O and am looking at 240+ ish for a WDO. Captains around 150% of this.

[nuclear weapon]

Ryanair is not in financial trouble they are simply looking for more ways to squeeze out revenues.