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Old 13th Nov 2008, 13:50
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BA Age profile and seniority

Quote from the BA website:

Diversity - British Airways age profile January 2008
The bar graph shows the percentage of total British Airways employees by age groupings as of January 2008.

The percentage value for each age grouping is as follows:

15-19 years: 0.12%
20-24 years: 2.65%
25-29 years: 5.78%
30-34 years: 10.3%
35-39 years: 17.2%
40-44 years: 20.32%
45-49 years: 18.08%
50-54 years: 13.48%
55-59 years: 8.26%
60-64 years: 3.48%
65+ years: 0.33%

Remember this is for the TOTAL BA employees not just pilots. However, is this a true reflection of BA pilot age profiles??

Regarding Seniority and time to command would a 35 year old joining at the moment get a long haul command in 18-20 years based on the the number of younger pilots above him/her in the seniority?

Finally, do you guys think BA does spread the ages out in terms of recruiting. For example if they had too many pilots between 25-30 and not so many between 30-35 then they would tend to favour those pilots at the DEP interview.

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I think the BA pilot community would see a higher proportion in the 25-39 bracket as a result of the high level of cadet recruitment pre-2001. There's (statistically speaking) nobody 60+ flying for BA either, although that will change in the future. It would be pure guesswork to say how that would affect a long haul command in 20 years time. BA have in the past tried to spread the demographic profile of the pilot group in order to avoid a bulge in retirements but as far as I know it's nowhere near as precise as you speculate. With the abolition of a compulsory retirement age it's probably not a problem any more, and age discrimination legislation probably makes that kind of selection illegal now anyway.
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Looking at the higher end. It has been quoted that there are approximately 180-200 pilots in BA, now above the old retirement age of 55. This would seem to represent about 7-8% ?

Undoubtedly, those numbers will increase, presumably the percentage will increase also!

For those in the 'Golden Generation' - Good for you/us!

How long would someone joining now, wait for a LH command?

Barring significant LH expansion, my guess would be 20 years plus!

(To all our 12 year old readers!) If you can afford to wait another 10 years, as the original coffin dodgers die out - without having time to draw their pension - that time will reduce,
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The demographics are wrong! They obviously don't include SH cabin crew, the top end figures are WAY too low.

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Carnage....There are a handful of 60+ BA pilots.....
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You are correct. But the only 60+ pilots in BA are either the odd management pilot who had a >55 contract and the ex_Dan Air guys who could work on until 60, in line with their old Da Air contracts, on the proviso that they were limited to LGW flying.

AFAIK 120 pilots were taken on from Dan Air, of which those >60 now probably number <20 and possibly in single digits.
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that there are approximately 180-200 pilots in BA, now above the old retirement age of 55.
Very apposite point as I have just hit 55 with a seniority of 200 (not exactly you will understand - got to preserve a bit of anonynimity) Looking just ahead of me there are quite few "youngsters" with some time to go to 55. As for the rest, it will be very interesting how many start to retire over the next couple of years - having reached their own personal goal of 57,58 or what have you.......
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Haven't you heard?

65 is the 'new' 58!
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Where in the BA seniority would a pilot hired as a Cadet in, I think, the 1987 course be? It was just after we graduated from Uni in 1986. (also how many pilots do you have?)

I just ask because one of the guys I went to High School and Uni with was fortunate enough to get in then. It was the first class after a break and I would imagine he would be quite senior now. I lost touch a long time ago (getting old) and my career has taken a few twists and turns to end up flying for World Airways after being a late starter. (funny how life plays out)
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I would guesstimate an early Prestwick cadet to be about #500 seniority (out of 3200) - speaking as a mid 600 seniority person myself.
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