Ryanair FO scheduled block hours - the truth please!
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Ryanair FO scheduled block hours - the truth please!
Please can we have the truth regarding the number of hours FOs are flying at present? Lots of crap floating about. PPJN states 500 over the year! I doubt this is true. Your help would me much appreciated.
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So the truth is.............. Year 1 you will do 800-900hrs as you are cheap labour for the company. After that your hours will decrease to anything from 30-80hrs per month as you steadily cost the company more.
Hope this helps as it's NOT bull****!
Hope this helps as it's NOT bull****!
CIPO is dead on the money. was doing above 85 hours but then the new pay band kicked in and surprise surprise the hours have dropped to about 55 hours a month. That makes a hell of a big hole in the monthly budget.
Looks to be getting worse as well more FO's and less flying. You do the math.
Looks to be getting worse as well more FO's and less flying. You do the math.
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Thanks for the low down. Any signs of this being the way forward within FR or is it in all honesty just a temporary slow down given the current climate? Your thoughts.
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Just another question to add...
Does this mean then by doing 40-50 hours per month that your actually only working 6 to 9 days per month and are the other days counted as days off or stand-by days???
Does this mean then by doing 40-50 hours per month that your actually only working 6 to 9 days per month and are the other days counted as days off or stand-by days???
Plenty of standbys at the moment and lots of two sector days.
Superpilot think about it who's cheaper for RYR to use, a second third year FO or a freshly minted FO who they cant work to death? Part of is probably due to the slow down but speaking to friends it seems to be system wide and affecting FO above the 500 hour mark although there seems to be exceptions to this.
Coincidence? Perhaps but my money is elsewhere!
Skyflyer what base are you in? Floating base?
Superpilot think about it who's cheaper for RYR to use, a second third year FO or a freshly minted FO who they cant work to death? Part of is probably due to the slow down but speaking to friends it seems to be system wide and affecting FO above the 500 hour mark although there seems to be exceptions to this.
Coincidence? Perhaps but my money is elsewhere!
Skyflyer what base are you in? Floating base?
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Used to fly around 70 to 80 hours a month, after I passed the 500 hours mark, its gone up to almost 90 the last two month, summer season or coincidence? Dont know, this is Ryanair you know ;-)
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Yes I absolutely agree that it would be far more economical for Ryanair to employ the new cadet and use him/her to the max hours as opposed to a 2nd or 3rd year FO but as you infer it's not a simple explanation. I will add that for rostering to achieve a discrimination based on one's experience at Ryanair, there would have to be blatant meddling of the rostering system which for a company this size seems a bit unrealistic. Also how such rules/logic could be built into a complicated, automated rostering system I can't imagine. (But then and again we are talking about Ryanair!!!)
Come on guys keep the facts coming.
Come on guys keep the facts coming.
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i've been an fo for about two years, it's true your hours drop when you get onto full sector pay. my roster is usually work three days out of the block of five and have the other two standby. flying around 5-7 hours average on those days working. basic take home around £1850 and sector pay around £1600 per month. not sure where it all goes though.
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Seems to me from this thread it varies for different FO's (and bases maybe)
For the guys who keep flying on full roster pay are they Ryanair FO's or also Brookfield FO's? Makes a big difference for Brookfield FO's...
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For the guys who keep flying on full roster pay are they Ryanair FO's or also Brookfield FO's? Makes a big difference for Brookfield FO's...
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Starting to get extra leave in roster so now doing 4 on 5 off some weeks! Bearing in mind that 1 of those days on is a standby. Done to combat rising fuel costs and the grounding of aircraft over the winter seems to be the reason!
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another FO here with the same story, worked to death nearly year 1, then only done 700-750 hours the next two years, if that. Now taking home roughly the same money that i was when first signed off on the line and getting full sector pay (second half of year one). That means I'm earning about 7 or 8 grand a year less than the equivalently experienced FO was 5 years ago pre 'optimised' roster and pre hourly flight pay (and before the senior FO grade was abolished).
Happy days.....
Happy days.....
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Well that will all change as soon as you get a command. Here at Stansted we get asked every week to work days off and do hundred hours a month.
I dream of getting several standbys a week, but no chance.
I dream of getting several standbys a week, but no chance.
