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I have registered an objection with AirJobsDigest.com in regard to their allowing Avionco to advertise thereon, citing their execrable reputation with the international contract pilot segment of the industry.
I urge others to posit their specific, factual experiences with AirJobsDigest.com and any other online pilot employment portal that allows these unscrupulous fools to perpetrate their international contract pilot employment scam. It is imperative that pilots and potential contract pilot employers get the word about this company and its unscrupulous operations.
I urge others to posit their specific, factual experiences with AirJobsDigest.com and any other online pilot employment portal that allows these unscrupulous fools to perpetrate their international contract pilot employment scam. It is imperative that pilots and potential contract pilot employers get the word about this company and its unscrupulous operations.
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I understand that the Avionco pilots going to Lebanon were told they would be flying to EU destinations and not into Iraq. Upon arrival, the crew was flying into/over Iraq and not to the EU.
Avionco is going to need a lot of crews in the upcoming months for Bombardier support. Iraqi Airlines is one.
Contract Pilots, make sure the terms of your agreement are clear and don't let Avionco low ball you on pay to fly in hostile territories!
Don't forget, Avionco's payment history to many contractors is sketchy at best. Money up front should be part of deal.
Good luck!
Avionco is going to need a lot of crews in the upcoming months for Bombardier support. Iraqi Airlines is one.
Contract Pilots, make sure the terms of your agreement are clear and don't let Avionco low ball you on pay to fly in hostile territories!
Don't forget, Avionco's payment history to many contractors is sketchy at best. Money up front should be part of deal.
Good luck!
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This is the information that I have. I had long wondered why Bombardier continued with these fools, and am gratified to hear that they have thrown them over, and that the customer support program has been reorganized within Bombardier. Someone, evidently, finally wised up.
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Don't know where you guys get your information, but the Avionco/Bombardier relationship is strong and healthy. I agree that Avionco must be avoided. Too many other pilots out there can verify this fact. I seems to me however, that Avionco is attempting to clean up their act a bit after all of the well deserved negative publicity they have had. Never the less, I still don't trust them.
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Attention Avionco Pilots
Does anybody have information, web links, or knowledge about the shady, and or illegal and fraudulent, workings of Avionco? If so please email it to the following address: [email protected]
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A simple search of the forums will yield a substantial volume of information concerning this egregious company and its multitude of sins against contract pilots.
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A new website may fool the uninitiated, as it was undoubtedly intended to do, but putting a new face on the same corrupt organization doesn't change what they are--an affront to the contract pilot industry.
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They are people who insinuate themselves into the middle between aircraft operators and air carriers who are in need of pilots, and the pilots. They then arrange it to receive the pilots' contract pay. You can imagine what happens then.
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Citation dude and others!! I was just wondering whats got you so rattled about Avionco. Ive been with them a year and have nothing bad to say. Am I just lucky or what?? Eitherway I really could care less what anyone says but just curious what happened to you! I see nothing specific, just reading this and wondering. What happened? Did you not get paid? Screwed over? Just wondering what all the squealing is about, Im curious!!
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Avionco, The Destroyers Of Pilot Careers.
Fitzy690,
Glad to hear that Avionco is cleaning up its reputation a bit. I was lied to about my contract, both in missing info and in misrepresentation. I was not paid for work done, and for the work that I did get paid for, was often paid late, as much as 28 days late. This equates to almost two months with no paycheck! I find that they are vindictive, unscrupulous, and are destroying pilot careers on a regular basis. They also show great favoritism to you Canadian Pilots. If you are not on their Bombardier CLP program, then you are just Cannon Fodder.
Their non CLP pilots in the field are mismanaged, or have no management at all through the means of information vacuum, and the rule of, “Survival of the fittest and most ruthless”. There are many good pilots trapped at Avionco in these hard times, but there, you will find some of the biggest rejects in the pilot industry, and their own histories will prove this point. Avionco does not screen pilots very well.
I personally have found several of their pilots to be poor ambassadors to both Avionco and to the North American pilot Expats working abroad. I would not recommend them to work for. Even the CLP pilots are being constantly lied to, so that Avionco can continue to man the Bombardier contract they have in force.
These people will use you, lie to you, and then throw you away without you even knowing about it until it’s too late. Then if you challenge them, they will go out of their way to try and bar you from working with any other contracting company or employer out there. All of this, I know from first-hand personal experience. There is just no future in them.
Good Luck.
Glad to hear that Avionco is cleaning up its reputation a bit. I was lied to about my contract, both in missing info and in misrepresentation. I was not paid for work done, and for the work that I did get paid for, was often paid late, as much as 28 days late. This equates to almost two months with no paycheck! I find that they are vindictive, unscrupulous, and are destroying pilot careers on a regular basis. They also show great favoritism to you Canadian Pilots. If you are not on their Bombardier CLP program, then you are just Cannon Fodder.
Their non CLP pilots in the field are mismanaged, or have no management at all through the means of information vacuum, and the rule of, “Survival of the fittest and most ruthless”. There are many good pilots trapped at Avionco in these hard times, but there, you will find some of the biggest rejects in the pilot industry, and their own histories will prove this point. Avionco does not screen pilots very well.
I personally have found several of their pilots to be poor ambassadors to both Avionco and to the North American pilot Expats working abroad. I would not recommend them to work for. Even the CLP pilots are being constantly lied to, so that Avionco can continue to man the Bombardier contract they have in force.
These people will use you, lie to you, and then throw you away without you even knowing about it until it’s too late. Then if you challenge them, they will go out of their way to try and bar you from working with any other contracting company or employer out there. All of this, I know from first-hand personal experience. There is just no future in them.
Good Luck.
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The question has been asked and answered many times here and on other forums.
The bottom line is: With their execrable reputation, why bother with them? Why risk it when there are other, reputable companies managed by scrupulous people.
The bottom line is: With their execrable reputation, why bother with them? Why risk it when there are other, reputable companies managed by scrupulous people.
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as much as 28 days late
played the game right back, telling them I was packed and ready to go and when it seemed tickets were coming something would come up. Eventually they released me from any obligations, although they still owe me. Better to get out with a small loss versus a large loss.
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You were smart--and lucky.
I went through this same type of thing for months and kept catching them at lies and manipulations. The pilot boards are festooned with similar stories about these fools.
I went through this same type of thing for months and kept catching them at lies and manipulations. The pilot boards are festooned with similar stories about these fools.
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Acass much like Avionco much like Acass !!!
Acass Snafu!!!
Ladies and Gentlemen of this forum I posted this on the Canada forum with some additions to this post for a comparison,
Anyone hear anything about an ACASS crew that was recently jailed in Lagos, Nigeria? Would love to know the details and what led to it. Well I posted this around the 25th of November and of course as always someone jumps in to defend "assache" as they should be known and not acass, this time it was Willie Everlearn, in past posts on this forum Chandlers Dad was right there to defend as was the case when Contract Flygal posted about an incident in London with tickets to go home and so on. If any one is interested go back through the forum and see for yourself, the point here I am trying to make is that the VPFCS/PP has more then one Moniker and goes right for the jugular vain to defend assache. Things have been very slow in the new offices in Montreal and Grey Wings you should go over to see your management friends and pour them a little of that medicine you told HTD to take and whilst your at it pour some for yourself you sound a lot like the VPFCS/PP, if by chance Section 8 reads this post do you know what happened in Lagos and why was the acass crew Jailed? dc10 driver I commend you on you honesty as to what transpired with you! I got the arm around the shoulder, you are my man
your doing a fine job, keep up the good work, we are friends, yes that's the "used car salesman" at it again, does this sound familiar to you as you read this post?
and then wait to be shafted when things don't go the way he wants them to "fruit loop" is at it again watch your rectum.Also any one interested should go to the Canada forum and see the thread Merry Acass, I personally have contracted with both these Canadian companies and in future will not touch either one with a 10Ft pole, recently I have registered with reputable head hunters like Parc Aviation, Zenon, Brookfield Aviation ,Trident Aviation Recruitment & Training Ltd ,Direct Personnel, Aeroprofessional Ltd ,Rishworth Aviation and wynnwith just to name a few, these two Canadian outfits are a joke in the crew placement and aircraft management world they would be better off managing Mexican Donkeys cause that's about their Forte.
The Baron,
Ladies and Gentlemen of this forum I posted this on the Canada forum with some additions to this post for a comparison,
Anyone hear anything about an ACASS crew that was recently jailed in Lagos, Nigeria? Would love to know the details and what led to it. Well I posted this around the 25th of November and of course as always someone jumps in to defend "assache" as they should be known and not acass, this time it was Willie Everlearn, in past posts on this forum Chandlers Dad was right there to defend as was the case when Contract Flygal posted about an incident in London with tickets to go home and so on. If any one is interested go back through the forum and see for yourself, the point here I am trying to make is that the VPFCS/PP has more then one Moniker and goes right for the jugular vain to defend assache. Things have been very slow in the new offices in Montreal and Grey Wings you should go over to see your management friends and pour them a little of that medicine you told HTD to take and whilst your at it pour some for yourself you sound a lot like the VPFCS/PP, if by chance Section 8 reads this post do you know what happened in Lagos and why was the acass crew Jailed? dc10 driver I commend you on you honesty as to what transpired with you! I got the arm around the shoulder, you are my man
your doing a fine job, keep up the good work, we are friends, yes that's the "used car salesman" at it again, does this sound familiar to you as you read this post? and then wait to be shafted when things don't go the way he wants them to "fruit loop" is at it again watch your rectum.Also any one interested should go to the Canada forum and see the thread Merry Acass, I personally have contracted with both these Canadian companies and in future will not touch either one with a 10Ft pole, recently I have registered with reputable head hunters like Parc Aviation, Zenon, Brookfield Aviation ,Trident Aviation Recruitment & Training Ltd ,Direct Personnel, Aeroprofessional Ltd ,Rishworth Aviation and wynnwith just to name a few, these two Canadian outfits are a joke in the crew placement and aircraft management world they would be better off managing Mexican Donkeys cause that's about their Forte.The Baron,