Training Agreements
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Training Agreements
Question for all pilots working in Europe.
Are 'Training Agreements' common practise? I.E. You agree to stay for 2 years and we will let you our fly fancy slick plane. If you leave before the 24 months are up, the amount agreed upon is reduced pro rata for your length of service?
If anyone has any details on how these ridiculous agreements are challenged and beaten in an UK/Europe court I would really appreciate details.
Please feel free to PM if you don't want to post out loud.
Thanks in advance.
WC
Are 'Training Agreements' common practise? I.E. You agree to stay for 2 years and we will let you our fly fancy slick plane. If you leave before the 24 months are up, the amount agreed upon is reduced pro rata for your length of service?
If anyone has any details on how these ridiculous agreements are challenged and beaten in an UK/Europe court I would really appreciate details.
Please feel free to PM if you don't want to post out loud.
Thanks in advance.
WC
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From: Northern Hemisphere
Thanks
Guess I've been around long enough that I should have remembered to do a quick search first!
The area seems as muddy as it is over here in N.America!
I would really like to hear from anyone who as actually stepped foot inside a court room with their previous employer to dispute a bond/agreement.
Did you Win - How?
Did they Win - Why?
TC
The area seems as muddy as it is over here in N.America!
I would really like to hear from anyone who as actually stepped foot inside a court room with their previous employer to dispute a bond/agreement.
Did you Win - How?
Did they Win - Why?
TC
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Yes they appear to have become common practice over the last 15 years or more. The problem of course, is that any "agreement" requires two or more parties to "agree".
Unless you were lawfully incompetant when you entered into the agreement because for example you were underage or had diagnosed mental impairment, then a challenge is always going to be difficult. If you were coerced in some way or threatened you might have a strong case. Unfortunetaly being greedy, impatient, ignorant or ill advised is not a very strong basis for a challenge. It is normally a case of caveat emptor when anybody is selling you something. In the case of being sold something with a written contract, you should certainly read and understand the terms and wherever necessary get proper advice before signing on the dotted line.
"Ridiculous agreements", are not necessarily unlawful agreements and it does beg the obvious question, how ridiculous was the party that signed up to something they deemed as such ?
Having said that the courts are full of people challenging contracts of all types, and if you feel you have a case take it to a professional who will be able to give you sound advice and (after signing an agreement) be able to act for you. Far better than any anecdotal advice you will receive here. However a point to bear in mind is that win or lose, it will likely take longer to be decided than the 2 years of your bond.
Good luck.
Unless you were lawfully incompetant when you entered into the agreement because for example you were underage or had diagnosed mental impairment, then a challenge is always going to be difficult. If you were coerced in some way or threatened you might have a strong case. Unfortunetaly being greedy, impatient, ignorant or ill advised is not a very strong basis for a challenge. It is normally a case of caveat emptor when anybody is selling you something. In the case of being sold something with a written contract, you should certainly read and understand the terms and wherever necessary get proper advice before signing on the dotted line.
"Ridiculous agreements", are not necessarily unlawful agreements and it does beg the obvious question, how ridiculous was the party that signed up to something they deemed as such ?
Having said that the courts are full of people challenging contracts of all types, and if you feel you have a case take it to a professional who will be able to give you sound advice and (after signing an agreement) be able to act for you. Far better than any anecdotal advice you will receive here. However a point to bear in mind is that win or lose, it will likely take longer to be decided than the 2 years of your bond.
Good luck.
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From: tahiti
just a quick thought on contracts etc. remember in the uk when there was a few problems with endowment policies and you could put a claim in for being mis sold the product. would this not be similar to a bond/training agreement. ie if you did not have the product explained fully before you signed then you could challenge it later.
anyway why would you want to "challenge" the agreement are you not better to try and "negotiate" you might be amazed at what can be achieved by being honest
if you dont like the T&Cs then dont sign. if you have signed and the T&Cs change well the ball is in your court
As always on an international website you get inputs from around the world so check the location of the person offering you advice as it might not be relevent in your state/country/continent/hemisphere/planet!
good luck with your quest
anyway why would you want to "challenge" the agreement are you not better to try and "negotiate" you might be amazed at what can be achieved by being honest
if you dont like the T&Cs then dont sign. if you have signed and the T&Cs change well the ball is in your court
As always on an international website you get inputs from around the world so check the location of the person offering you advice as it might not be relevent in your state/country/continent/hemisphere/planet!
good luck with your quest
