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in Switzerland maybe, but certainly not in zurich, unless you like to live under the Limats'bridges!!!
Zurich and his areas are very expensive! one of the most expensive place in the world!
3500 euro after taxes, this is what make a tram driver(5800 francs before taxes).
Zurich and his areas are very expensive! one of the most expensive place in the world!
3500 euro after taxes, this is what make a tram driver(5800 francs before taxes).
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I was offered my old job back in April and unfortunately had to say no. Or at least delay it. Two reasons - first there is still no way between the so-called 'Regional' flying and the A320 and second the pay was not great. In fact that is quite an understatement. It was pretty bad actually.
The job would have been nice and the Avro is not a bad airplane, but under the current conditions it was simply not a great option.
If there were currently a proper path from the Avro or Embraer to the A320 fleet it would be much nicer.
Anyway, Switzerland is very expensive and the money they offer is not very good. SWISS is surely just a shadow of what it used to be as Swissair and Crossair.....
Too bad. Very nice people there for sure from both sides of the old company.
I miss flying in Switzerland a lot, but the career prospects were not very good.
The job would have been nice and the Avro is not a bad airplane, but under the current conditions it was simply not a great option.
If there were currently a proper path from the Avro or Embraer to the A320 fleet it would be much nicer.
Anyway, Switzerland is very expensive and the money they offer is not very good. SWISS is surely just a shadow of what it used to be as Swissair and Crossair.....
Too bad. Very nice people there for sure from both sides of the old company.I miss flying in Switzerland a lot, but the career prospects were not very good.
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just draw a line worth 60 minutes by car or train and then take your pick. The further you move away from the big cities the cheaper the rent gets. Seems to be like that all over the globe
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Thun is getting a bit far away. But seriously, Switzerland is so small that when you get an hour outside ZRH you're practically halfway across the country. Traffic coming into ZRH from that side can be tough though. Trains would be the best.
If you are serious you can hardly go wrong anywhere. There are no bad places in Switzerland. Only good and better.
If you are serious you can hardly go wrong anywhere. There are no bad places in Switzerland. Only good and better.
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Actually many of these "crazy-enough-to-work-for-LX"-guys live in Berne and its surroundings... And most of them travel to work by train. Only thing is to get to ZRH for the earlies and back after the really lates. But thats what the PBS is for, aa'iiight?
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I think it's not worth to live far away from ZRH airport. If you want something cheap, go to Kloten (the village where the airport is located). There you can get reasonable block apartment. They are not highest quality, but still good enough compared to the international market. You spend much less money and time on travelling.
During your course, you can even get small flats from SAT (Swiss' trainings department) for a few 100 CHF, just in the backyard of the school building.
Lugano, I don't know if you have the latest information, but I can show you the letter from Swiss management about the career planning. By now, 2 SWU pilots became SWR A320 pilots, and 10 more are planned every year. You have to be younger than 30 though (1966 and younger).
Thin Albert, I didn't say the pay is very good, I just try to give neutral information. You are just lucky enough that you get more, but that is no reason to blame others who want to try their luck. I also don't get more than in SWU. But I'm happy. No airline other than the major in your homeland offers you a higher pay if you deduct your country's social tax/tax!
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During your course, you can even get small flats from SAT (Swiss' trainings department) for a few 100 CHF, just in the backyard of the school building.
Lugano, I don't know if you have the latest information, but I can show you the letter from Swiss management about the career planning. By now, 2 SWU pilots became SWR A320 pilots, and 10 more are planned every year. You have to be younger than 30 though (1966 and younger).
Thin Albert, I didn't say the pay is very good, I just try to give neutral information. You are just lucky enough that you get more, but that is no reason to blame others who want to try their luck. I also don't get more than in SWU. But I'm happy. No airline other than the major in your homeland offers you a higher pay if you deduct your country's social tax/tax!
Dani
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Hoi Dani
i dont blame others to try their luck, i am justing saying be careful, you most probably will regret it after a while....for sure...!!!!!!
And secondly i was only correcting your numbers for the others because i think they are a little bit misleading to make a proper analysis and decision!
Hace a good time and happy new year!
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i dont blame others to try their luck, i am justing saying be careful, you most probably will regret it after a while....for sure...!!!!!!And secondly i was only correcting your numbers for the others because i think they are a little bit misleading to make a proper analysis and decision!
Hace a good time and happy new year!
Cheerio
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By now, 2 SWU pilots became SWR A320 pilots,
You just forget to tell one was an office pilot with a very bad seniority who could still keep his CMD at SWU seat by playing a dirty trick...
Let's see how long he will survive as F/O at SWR
By now, 2 SWU pilots became SWR A320 pilots,
You just forget to tell one was an office pilot with a very bad seniority who could still keep his CMD at SWU seat by playing a dirty trick...
Let's see how long he will survive as F/O at SWR
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The proper way to do it would be to have one seniority list and have new-hire pilots assigned to the Avro or Embraer or whatever they get and cut their teeth on that plane. Pilots would progress up the seniority ladder just like at any other job.
That would be the most fair and proper way to do it. Probably won't happen, but maybe one day.
And EVERYONE there needs to understand that flying the smaller Avro is not easier or requires less skill or anything like that.
Anyway, it would be nice to see Swiss aviation be a world leader again and when everyone can put their personal ego aside and work together it could happen.
SR and LX were the best in their respective business for good reason - attention to detail and focus on quality.
Even as a now-outsider I would like to see that happen again.
That would be the most fair and proper way to do it. Probably won't happen, but maybe one day.
And EVERYONE there needs to understand that flying the smaller Avro is not easier or requires less skill or anything like that.
Anyway, it would be nice to see Swiss aviation be a world leader again and when everyone can put their personal ego aside and work together it could happen.
SR and LX were the best in their respective business for good reason - attention to detail and focus on quality.
Even as a now-outsider I would like to see that happen again.
