Ryanair starts to import Romanian and Bulgarian pilots

[Beaver diver]

Ryanair starts to import Romanian and Bulgarian pilots
Hey guys,

I have just heard from my source that Ryanair wants to import Romanian and Bulgarian pilots to work for them as they are frustrated for manpower. Although they might have a problem in UK, since the government has decide to not let any of them into the UK until 2009. Maybe they should try Poland, plenty of them flying around?
Well It looks like history is repeating itself, since one of the first pilots flying Ryanair were actually Romanians...

Your thoughts?
BD

[Rainboe]

It's the EC. It's their right. There are just temporary restrictions at the moment, which won't last. If they want European EC pilots, then they can take them, just as I can get a job in France or Germany or Italy if I so decide. That is what the EC is about- free movement of goods and services.

[florida flamingo]

Hi BD,
If these pilots have a JAR license then they should be entitled to work in Europe before the Americans & Canadians. Being part of the EU Romanians and Bulgarians should not be descriminated. Romanians have always flown western aircraft B707 and even built the BAC-111 under license. The thing to watch out is they should not be paid less than other EU citizens.
All the best to them!

[EjetSetter]

And be given a free TR with bond.

[Beaver diver]

Oh, ok lets support the local economy....was my hint.

[Joe_Bar]

which local economy?

[cool_pilot]

Non-EC pilots ?

I have heard a rumour that Ryanair tend to recruit some non EC pilots every now and then just to sort out their occasional shortage,however this apply to Direct Entry Captains.....True or False ?

[easymoney]

This is good for Ryanair


Also relatively good for the Romanian and Bulgarian Pilots.

but

Not good for the Current Permanent Ryanair Pilots.

[dkz]

romanian pilots

The only little problem being the lack of romanian pilots here. It seems there are not enough pilots for the local market: Tarom, Blueair, Wizzair, Myair and Carpatair are all looking for pilots for the romanian market without luck, there are pilots without hours and there are old pilots flying abroad (UAE, EU).

I wish Ryanair best of luck trying to recruit them

(However i don't know the status of the bulgarian pilots ...)

P.S. - Romania is a full JAA member.

[airman13]

dkz,
it is true ,all romanian air companies are in pilot shortage but if this info about ryanair is real one, we have to be happy....money makes the difference! not sure that many pilots (type or non-type rating) will apply for them but our chiefs must think once again if we are paid correctly in respect of work we are doing ......

[CamelhAir]

our chiefs must think once again if we are paid correctly in respect of work we are doing ......

You won't be paid correctly in ryanair. Firstly, you will be paid peanuts (the era of the €50k has arrived). Secondly they will do everything possible to not honour your contract.

[captplaystation]

Ryanair have historically tended to use "local cost of living" to their advantage when deciding salaries at a new base. If any Romanian / Bulgarian pilot is thinking of joining it would make sense to try and be based at an existing base, you can be sure if they open a base in former East, salary will be equal to Blue Air or whoever. It would also greatly help us here ( and eventually you ) if you could take the trouble to find out what existing employees earn , and try not to accept less p l e a s e .

[dkz]

Don't worry about that, anybody joining them will know how it's paid on other bases. We are on the same side here, we don't wanna work for peanuts

[captplaystation]

Good man, welcome to a united Europe, but don't trust our management, they are probably worse than what you may be leaving behind at dodgy deals.

[remoak]

Rainboe

just as I can get a job in France or Germany or Italy if I so decide. That is what the EC is about- free movement of goods and services.

Excellent joke! Do you know any others? lol

[Jidi]

Regarding restrictions for Romanians and Bulgarians in UK, as far as I know, the restriction does not apply for qualifed and highly qualified jobs. The market is opened for a list of professions (construction jobs, turism, engeneering, etc), so it's likely to have a green light for pilots.
Also, as a romanian/bulgarian, if you do have a signed contract with a well established UK based company, getting the work permit from UK consulate it's just a matter of hours and a little bit of paper work.

Indeed, Romania has a lack of pilots. Almost every airline that is based in romania are looking for pilots, even with low hours. For example, the ministry of transport is paying for pilot training at Air Academy, 20 cadets every year enjoy this privilege. Tarom, the national company is recruting from there .. if I'm not wrong, all the airacademy cadets have to work at least 5 years for a romainan carrier. I heared about a few guys that just got off from airacademy and are enjoying F/O positions on B737 and ATR42.

Carpatair is hiring captains and F/O for their SAAB340 and 2000 fleet for salaries about 3500 euros. BlueAir is also looking for B737 crew since they are looking to grow their fleet. BlueAir recurted some captains from Tarom, but as far as I heared they're also lookig into getting low hour guys on board.

I wish all the good luck to R/B pilots looking for a Ryanair position.

[ules]

wow this is great news, when i complete my CPL.
im an australian born romanian. with both AU . and RO passports,, will be great for me to go find work in romania for someone with low/ hours.
getting excited .. !!

[RYR-738-JOCKEY]

Hold your horses, Ules. There's a Euro 30000 entrance fee for the show. Not to mention the 25000 Euro to stay alive during the first year. But after that it improves.

[captplaystation]

ules, sounds fine to me. . . . . . less crime, the badly behaved girls are also good looking rather than just having their skirt half way up their @rse (or half way round their ankles), and they speak more intelligble English than where you are now.

[Jidi]

Captplaystation, we were talking about romanian pilots, not hores .. not even second in command hores )