Ryanair B737 Rated Pilot Recruitment Day
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Ryanair B737 Rated Pilot Recruitment Day
I just heard that Ryanair are holding some sort of recruitment day on 27th October 2007 at the Radisson SAS Hotel Manchester Airport for us 737 rated guys.
I have a flyer for the event but I have not seen anything advertised on the website yet.
In the light of the uncertainty and seniority list issues in the charters at the moment I am thinking of going along to have a look. It appears command is pretty quick there.
Anyone else thinking of going?
I have a flyer for the event but I have not seen anything advertised on the website yet.
In the light of the uncertainty and seniority list issues in the charters at the moment I am thinking of going along to have a look. It appears command is pretty quick there.
Anyone else thinking of going?
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Not heard of anything other than the Manchester one so far 
There's an email address if you want to contact them to ask
[email protected]
There's an email address if you want to contact them to ask
[email protected]
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The only thing going for Ryanair is the stability of rosters.Please do your research before leaping out of the frying pan. 75% Of pilots resigned from LPL in the last 12 months. Morale is appalling the pay is not what they tell you leave often allocated and management the worst I have experienced in 25 years of professional aviation. Bullying is considered good management style.I could go on but frankly the promise of an early command must not prevent you being objective when you look at this company. PPrune has many threads look at them all. The worst aspects described do not begin to describe the reality.
Please consider very carefully before you believe any of Ryanairs Spin. They make our politicians look like amateurs.
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Please consider very carefully before you believe any of Ryanairs Spin. They make our politicians look like amateurs.
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Do you know if I could have any chance to get a job with Ryanair with a 737 300-900 TR and 100 hours on type? If you want to apply as rated pilot they require you to have at least 500 on type... so what should I do?
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DC 8,
To answer your question, if you pass the sim assessment, Ryanair will probably offer you a Cadet contract, which is a training contract.
It basically is a contract to complete your line training. Pay is £700 per month while you are training. But be advised, if a LTC is available, say in Bergamo, then that's where you will fly from. Accommodation will be at your own expense. Then, if the follwing week the LTC available is in East Mids, then that's where you will fly from. Again, hotac and food etc is at your own expense.
To all 737 Rated Guys,
I am ex Ryanair. I have no bitterness towards the company whatsoever. But, based upon my own experience, I would view an offer of employment with Ryanair purely as a last resort.
Ryanair will and have removed pay scales without any consultation, negotiation etc. For example, I was due to move to the SFO salary scale only be told by the Director of Personnel that the rank of SFO no longer exists. It was news to me and to many other guys who were approaching the new pay scale.
That is but one example of many. There is no union in Ryanair. You have no protection whatsoever. They will, when it suits them, alter your T's and C's, to suit their purpose and you will not have any comeback at all.
On the plus side, the roster is excellent. But the 5 on 4 off shift pattern you will enjoy is created by allocating you nine of your annual leave days per year. i.e you are really working 5 on 3 off with a days annual leave tagged on at the end to create the fourth day off. So the roster isn't really what it at first appears to be!
The aircraft are all new and pretty well maintained. The operation itself isn't bad. You'll fly into some pretty interesting airports and do a lot of npa's.
Ryanair will alter block times to suit them too. If you work a day where your scheduled block time is over 5 hours but less than seven then your sector pay for that day is £130. Over seven hours and it's £185. However, you'll find that Ryanair will alter block times here and there, stealing time, so your scheduled block hours for the day will fall just under the seven hour threshold. That means they have "stole" £55 from you. They often do this. You'll find that your block time is often the same as the flight time!
I am currently in one of the "unstable" charter airlines after my Ryanair experience. But I have to admit, that I prefer where I am now to where I was before. Ryanair is an airline I will return to only if I really have to. And then it will be only to keep some money coming in while I look for something else.
Be as objective as you can when considering Ryanair. One of the things I told myself prior to joining was that with 138 aircraft on their AOC and new bases opeining up all the time, it can't be as bad as people make out.
I was right, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It's actually worse. It's a shame, but you have to experience it to believe it. I have no way of portraying how horrible a place it is to work merely by using words on this forum.
To answer your question, if you pass the sim assessment, Ryanair will probably offer you a Cadet contract, which is a training contract.
It basically is a contract to complete your line training. Pay is £700 per month while you are training. But be advised, if a LTC is available, say in Bergamo, then that's where you will fly from. Accommodation will be at your own expense. Then, if the follwing week the LTC available is in East Mids, then that's where you will fly from. Again, hotac and food etc is at your own expense.
To all 737 Rated Guys,
I am ex Ryanair. I have no bitterness towards the company whatsoever. But, based upon my own experience, I would view an offer of employment with Ryanair purely as a last resort.
Ryanair will and have removed pay scales without any consultation, negotiation etc. For example, I was due to move to the SFO salary scale only be told by the Director of Personnel that the rank of SFO no longer exists. It was news to me and to many other guys who were approaching the new pay scale.
That is but one example of many. There is no union in Ryanair. You have no protection whatsoever. They will, when it suits them, alter your T's and C's, to suit their purpose and you will not have any comeback at all.
On the plus side, the roster is excellent. But the 5 on 4 off shift pattern you will enjoy is created by allocating you nine of your annual leave days per year. i.e you are really working 5 on 3 off with a days annual leave tagged on at the end to create the fourth day off. So the roster isn't really what it at first appears to be!
The aircraft are all new and pretty well maintained. The operation itself isn't bad. You'll fly into some pretty interesting airports and do a lot of npa's.
Ryanair will alter block times to suit them too. If you work a day where your scheduled block time is over 5 hours but less than seven then your sector pay for that day is £130. Over seven hours and it's £185. However, you'll find that Ryanair will alter block times here and there, stealing time, so your scheduled block hours for the day will fall just under the seven hour threshold. That means they have "stole" £55 from you. They often do this. You'll find that your block time is often the same as the flight time!
I am currently in one of the "unstable" charter airlines after my Ryanair experience. But I have to admit, that I prefer where I am now to where I was before. Ryanair is an airline I will return to only if I really have to. And then it will be only to keep some money coming in while I look for something else.
Be as objective as you can when considering Ryanair. One of the things I told myself prior to joining was that with 138 aircraft on their AOC and new bases opeining up all the time, it can't be as bad as people make out.
I was right, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It's actually worse. It's a shame, but you have to experience it to believe it. I have no way of portraying how horrible a place it is to work merely by using words on this forum.
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Hi bonernow!
Thanks for your reply.
In case I was offered a Cadet contract, would I have to do the type rating course again or just start flying?
When does the training finish and you are offered a normal F/O contract?
Finally, how should I apply in order to be invited for a sim assesment?
Thanks for your reply.
In case I was offered a Cadet contract, would I have to do the type rating course again or just start flying?
When does the training finish and you are offered a normal F/O contract?
Finally, how should I apply in order to be invited for a sim assesment?
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My God DC-8 did you not understand what bonernow just said? You certainly have the blinkers and ear plugs firmly on tight.... la la la la not listening ... la la la.... want to work for Ryanair la la la.....
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I joined Ryanair as a DEC almost two years ago having gone in with my eyes open, and was expecting exactly what you read here on pprune.
Currently I have no plans to leave, there are worse places to work depending on what you're looking for, although if I was based at STN I'm sure I might be singing a different tune.
The pay deal has been in place at my base since April, and I can assure you they have taken zero days leave from me to make the 5/4 roster work, and we get sector pay by scheduled block hour.
I'm not saying they're the best company in the world, but the pay, roster stability and being home every night suits me just fine, make your own mind up and good luck.
I joined Ryanair as a DEC almost two years ago having gone in with my eyes open, and was expecting exactly what you read here on pprune.
Currently I have no plans to leave, there are worse places to work depending on what you're looking for, although if I was based at STN I'm sure I might be singing a different tune.
The pay deal has been in place at my base since April, and I can assure you they have taken zero days leave from me to make the 5/4 roster work, and we get sector pay by scheduled block hour.
I'm not saying they're the best company in the world, but the pay, roster stability and being home every night suits me just fine, make your own mind up and good luck.
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DC 8,
What bluff has said sums up Ryanair perfectly. His experience, would appear to be positive. And it seems to me that he is in a differant base to what I was. The pay deal in Ryanair differs from base to base, as does the overall working environment, hence his/her comment in relation to Stn. Some bases are better than others. Captains in Ryanair tend to be on a pretty good number when compared to other airlines (Stable roster, home every night and decent take home pay). Co-Pilots however, exist purely to be raped and abused by the company.
If you're already rated, then you shouldn't have to do the type rating again. But you will have to complete Ryanair's line training. If, despite all of the warnings you read here and elsewhere, you still want to work for Ryanair, then apply online or go to one of the open days that are being discussed on this thread.
Good luck with it all if it's what you really want.
What bluff has said sums up Ryanair perfectly. His experience, would appear to be positive. And it seems to me that he is in a differant base to what I was. The pay deal in Ryanair differs from base to base, as does the overall working environment, hence his/her comment in relation to Stn. Some bases are better than others. Captains in Ryanair tend to be on a pretty good number when compared to other airlines (Stable roster, home every night and decent take home pay). Co-Pilots however, exist purely to be raped and abused by the company.
If you're already rated, then you shouldn't have to do the type rating again. But you will have to complete Ryanair's line training. If, despite all of the warnings you read here and elsewhere, you still want to work for Ryanair, then apply online or go to one of the open days that are being discussed on this thread.
Good luck with it all if it's what you really want.
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I had heard of one pilot who had done aTQ B737 course at Bond, and then flown 150hrs. This was less than the 500hrs demanded by RYR and he had to do another self-funded full TQ. However, this was a couple of years ago. Things could have changed, but I would have thought a simple question to the training management would receive a simple answer.
I'm sue you can find someone who works for them to give you the correct direct phone number to the horse's mouth.
I'm sue you can find someone who works for them to give you the correct direct phone number to the horse's mouth.
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I am interested in doing as you have done, DEC, or perhaps Fast Track Command F/O. Are you based in any of the Irish basings, or can you (or anyone else) tell me about these bases to work out of? Cheers
I am interested in doing as you have done, DEC, or perhaps Fast Track Command F/O. Are you based in any of the Irish basings, or can you (or anyone else) tell me about these bases to work out of? Cheers
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Let these people join and then wonder in a year why they paid over 30,000 Euro to be treated like crap. If your going to be so stupid not to listen anybody here go ahead and be a dope but dont come back here crying. Do you lot think that people tell you how bad Ryanair are for the crack??? Use your head and stay away. There are guys in STN earning £600 a month after they pay for everything and are trying to borrow again just so they can live. Enough said me thinks.
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It is funny how these threads start about Ryanair, and the suddenly a probationary pruner leaps in to say how fantastic it all is
.Don't forget folks, ryr are very short crew. There are not thousands of CV's in the in-box and if even a few of you refused to pay up, the game would be up for the ryr, the bluff would finally fail and free TR's you would all get.
You don't think 7 aircraft are being grounded in STN for the winter over a couple of quid in charges? There's no-one to fly 'em, end of story.
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No idea where the probationary thing came from, but if you check my joining date I was here before 05, and 06. Not sure why that would matter anyway?
Just telling what my experience has been, never said they're the best in the world, I'm just very pleased I joined, if that winds you up then I'm even happier!
Just telling what my experience has been, never said they're the best in the world, I'm just very pleased I joined, if that winds you up then I'm even happier!
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bluff,
we don't believe you, only 2 posts??
I think you work for this stupid Ryanair managment and you try to fool us.
We know that Ryanair managment read Pprune.
This company is crap.
we don't believe you, only 2 posts??
I think you work for this stupid Ryanair managment and you try to fool us.
We know that Ryanair managment read Pprune.
This company is crap.
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Congrats mate! No A/L days taken means you are on the good list. I guess you don't give a rats ass 'bout all those bases who stood up and voted NO! Rest assured, our A/L have been taken from the very first of April... Again, you couldn't care less could you?
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I completely agree with bluff.
You can see from the reaction to his post why the vast majority who are satisfied at RYR can't be bothered to post here and take the abuse from the newbies or the guys too scared to try elsewhere.
You can see from the reaction to his post why the vast majority who are satisfied at RYR can't be bothered to post here and take the abuse from the newbies or the guys too scared to try elsewhere.