Roughly how much?
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Roughly how much?
Hey guys.
I know this is a very broad question with lots of different things which could effect it, but i would just like a rough estimate.
Roughly, how much a year would a pilot get on his/her first flying job? For example on a 737 flying for Easyjet, Jet2 etc.
Many thanks.
I know this is a very broad question with lots of different things which could effect it, but i would just like a rough estimate.
Roughly, how much a year would a pilot get on his/her first flying job? For example on a 737 flying for Easyjet, Jet2 etc.
Many thanks.
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Hi SAM-MAN,
Have a look at ppjn.com (you might have already done this), this will give you some idea of pay for Easy, jet2 and other various airlines.
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Have a look at ppjn.com (you might have already done this), this will give you some idea of pay for Easy, jet2 and other various airlines.
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Hey Sam-Man
Two bits of advice: (you reading, Whirls?! LOL)
First: Stop addressing all your threads to "Hey GUYS"... (I know, I know, I'm being pedantic, but it's starting to piss me off!!
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Second: I can assure you almost 100% that your (and anyone's!) first flying job will not be in a 737!! You sound like a nice kid who's heart is in the right place.
I would strongly suggest you do some research with regards to the whole journey from first flight to the elusive "jet Job"... ask around, talk to people about how they did it, find out whats REALLY involved in the process. You might be suprised - you might not be.
But if you read through the threads here you will see that there are many, MANY people disillusioned with the whole aviation scene - and dare I suggest mainly those that did not do any research first and went into it with "rose tinted glasses".
All the best Sam
Two bits of advice: (you reading, Whirls?! LOL)
First: Stop addressing all your threads to "Hey GUYS"... (I know, I know, I'm being pedantic, but it's starting to piss me off!!
)Second: I can assure you almost 100% that your (and anyone's!) first flying job will not be in a 737!! You sound like a nice kid who's heart is in the right place.
I would strongly suggest you do some research with regards to the whole journey from first flight to the elusive "jet Job"... ask around, talk to people about how they did it, find out whats REALLY involved in the process. You might be suprised - you might not be.
But if you read through the threads here you will see that there are many, MANY people disillusioned with the whole aviation scene - and dare I suggest mainly those that did not do any research first and went into it with "rose tinted glasses".
All the best Sam
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Hey Kiwi.
Sorry about the thread titles! I will make them more relative next time i do post
And about the 737. I have spoke to a few pilots who have gone straight into a 737 after completing there ATPL training (maybe they were the minority!).
I will do my homework before posting next time
Many thanks, Sam
Sorry about the thread titles! I will make them more relative next time i do post
And about the 737. I have spoke to a few pilots who have gone straight into a 737 after completing there ATPL training (maybe they were the minority!).
I will do my homework before posting next time
Many thanks, Sam
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Sam-MAN,
It would be helpful if you stated your Quals, License, Ratings, Hours, etc; then perhaps you may get a more informed response. If you are straight out of the training schools with a brand new shinny Frozen ATPL, there are options such as, Ryan Air and Easy Jet in this part of the world, providing you have bucket loads of dosh to Sponsor Yourself through their training mills. I think Easy require you to have some commercial Multi Crew Experience, don't know about Ryan Air.
Easy & J2 Both have details on their websites.
Good Luck.
BR.
It would be helpful if you stated your Quals, License, Ratings, Hours, etc; then perhaps you may get a more informed response. If you are straight out of the training schools with a brand new shinny Frozen ATPL, there are options such as, Ryan Air and Easy Jet in this part of the world, providing you have bucket loads of dosh to Sponsor Yourself through their training mills. I think Easy require you to have some commercial Multi Crew Experience, don't know about Ryan Air.
Easy & J2 Both have details on their websites.
Good Luck.
BR.
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Hey Robot.
Im going into year 11 this September so i dont have my qualifications yet. (well, i have a half in RE
). I also havnt started my flight training as yet. However, im planning to do my PPL next summer with all my hours and everything completed to get my licience around summer 09. After that i want to get all the ratings i can before im allowed to get an ATPL. I have all my fundings pretty much worked out (i hope anyway!!!). I am going to get a job as soon as i leave school and save it up (along with money off ebay).
I just wanted a rough idea of a pilots salary after finishing there training and succesfully getting a job.
Many Thanks, Sam
Im going into year 11 this September so i dont have my qualifications yet. (well, i have a half in RE
). I also havnt started my flight training as yet. However, im planning to do my PPL next summer with all my hours and everything completed to get my licience around summer 09. After that i want to get all the ratings i can before im allowed to get an ATPL. I have all my fundings pretty much worked out (i hope anyway!!!). I am going to get a job as soon as i leave school and save it up (along with money off ebay).I just wanted a rough idea of a pilots salary after finishing there training and succesfully getting a job.
Many Thanks, Sam
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You will be just fine Sam-MAN 
Just go get your License and like in all professions in the world put out your resume.
Who knows, u might just end up down here in Lagos like some of us (quite comfy too, if I might add) but with no easyjet and so on earning a living flying a 737.
All the best.
Zaz
Just go get your License and like in all professions in the world put out your resume.
Who knows, u might just end up down here in Lagos like some of us (quite comfy too, if I might add) but with no easyjet and so on earning a living flying a 737.
All the best.
Zaz
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Thanks for all the friendy advice, its nice to know i have somewhere to go to get some real good advice. Without PPRune, i wouldnt be sat here now thinking that i want to be a pilot! I never knew that it was acheiveable for me (i though you had to be a top marks rich kid 
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Just looking forward to starting with all the training, trying as hard as i can to improve, improve and improve and hopefully it will pay off for the rest of my life.
Once again, many thanks!
)Just looking forward to starting with all the training, trying as hard as i can to improve, improve and improve and hopefully it will pay off for the rest of my life.
Once again, many thanks!
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Hmmmm - my apologies Sam, it would appear...
... what a scary bloody thought.
Have you read any of my other posts, dai chon doi ? If so you wouldn't need to be asking that question.
My apologies again Sam - here in New Zealand and most other places I know of, respected pilots have worked their way up the ladder through a long, hard process, and it's not usually straight on to the gold stripes.
And never forgetting too, there are plenty of other exciting, rewarding, flying jobs other than (Bus Driving) Jet Jockey!
Kiwi Chick
Straight onto a B737 may not happen in NZ or even Australia, but it is a frequent occurence for many ab initio's in the UK
I hope your hearts in the right place then. And before you offer advice, you qualify your career advice with ''.. in Nz, or in the south pacific..''.
My apologies again Sam - here in New Zealand and most other places I know of, respected pilots have worked their way up the ladder through a long, hard process, and it's not usually straight on to the gold stripes.
And never forgetting too, there are plenty of other exciting, rewarding, flying jobs other than (Bus Driving) Jet Jockey!
Kiwi Chick
here in New Zealand and most other places I know of,
I take it, then, that you have not heard of Europe, Asia, the Middle east or South America, where graduating as on F/O straight onto anything from an ATR to a 777 is not at all unusual.
I went through the "Hard Yards" in Aus and don't regret a moment of it, but I have subsequently flown a 737 as Captain in a CatIII operation in Europe with an FO with 270Hrs!!
The dynamic is somewhat different than flying with a high-time guy, and there's no doubt guys with this little experience are still learning, but they do the job just fine and graduate to the LHS after about four years with little problem.
Aus anhd NZ airlines insist on high-experience recruits because they can. In places where large-scale GA doesn't exist as a training ground, the airlines take what they can get and still seem to get the job done just fine.
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I put my hand up and stand corrected!! 
No I hadn't heard that.. still sounds kinda scary to me, lol!
I only go by all the stories I've read on here, and met in NZ, but in hindsight maybe most of them were from NZ/Aussie.
Thanks for putting me right!
she's off... furiously searching for passport, licences and work visas...
I take it, then, that you have not heard of Europe, Asia, the Middle east or South America, where graduating as on F/O straight onto anything from an ATR to a 777 is not at all unusual.
No I hadn't heard that.. still sounds kinda scary to me, lol!
I only go by all the stories I've read on here, and met in NZ, but in hindsight maybe most of them were from NZ/Aussie.
Thanks for putting me right!
she's off... furiously searching for passport, licences and work visas...
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Hey Sam,
Age has nothing to do with getting an airliner job, except with limits on licences(some airlines have age restrictions to fly for them to). Its all based on hours and experience, pilots who put the hard yards into their career get results.
Pilots fresh out of training moan because they cant get a job as they expect to be strapped into a 737 etc. There are plenty of jobs out there flying smaller planes.
The airline industry is very competive and half the time its all about TIMING
But don't expect to come out of training looking to fly a 737 sized aircraft though. Ask some pilots flying the big stuff, they will all have different backgrounds.
All the best
Aero
Age has nothing to do with getting an airliner job, except with limits on licences(some airlines have age restrictions to fly for them to). Its all based on hours and experience, pilots who put the hard yards into their career get results.
Pilots fresh out of training moan because they cant get a job as they expect to be strapped into a 737 etc. There are plenty of jobs out there flying smaller planes.
The airline industry is very competive and half the time its all about TIMING
But don't expect to come out of training looking to fly a 737 sized aircraft though. Ask some pilots flying the big stuff, they will all have different backgrounds.
All the best
Aero
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Yup, in europe it's pretty common to go from your Frozen ATPL Check directly into a jet type rating for a 737 or a scarebus. Major Airlines like Lufthansa sometimes take pilots direct from flying school onto types like A300s as well.
My current employer hired quite a few pilots who were still in flying school this year just because he was desperate to fill the seats on all those new shiny airplanes, they dont have to pay a type rating as well, just a reduced payscale for the first year (yes, thats paying for it too, just not straight outta your own pocket). It's common practice as well to upgrade them to the left seat after 3000 total time which can include everything thats flying and only 2000 hours experience on jets. Seems to work so far, no major incidents...
My current employer hired quite a few pilots who were still in flying school this year just because he was desperate to fill the seats on all those new shiny airplanes, they dont have to pay a type rating as well, just a reduced payscale for the first year (yes, thats paying for it too, just not straight outta your own pocket). It's common practice as well to upgrade them to the left seat after 3000 total time which can include everything thats flying and only 2000 hours experience on jets. Seems to work so far, no major incidents...
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Remember to offset whatever pay you get with potential debts!
I do know some guys who've gone straight onto 737/Airbus with 250 hours, albeit on a reduced salary and over 70 grands' worth of debt!!
I do know some guys who've gone straight onto 737/Airbus with 250 hours, albeit on a reduced salary and over 70 grands' worth of debt!!
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Hello.
Thanks for all the advice once again. Sorry if i seem abit of a 'novice' but i really have no idea how it all works (i am 15 after all). I just thought that from a few pilots who i had spoken to, there may be a chance of going straight into a 737 job
Im learning as i go along
Many thanks
Thanks for all the advice once again. Sorry if i seem abit of a 'novice' but i really have no idea how it all works (i am 15 after all). I just thought that from a few pilots who i had spoken to, there may be a chance of going straight into a 737 job
Im learning as i go along
Many thanks