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Old 6th Feb 2002, 20:01
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this German Bizjet company started interviews this week. Any feedback is more than welcome.
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My advice: stay away from them if you can!. .Unfortunatelly I can not be too specific, but I know a couple of people who have worked there and what they had to say was not very good: Pay is bad (roughly: F/O 2000 Euros, CPT 3000-3500 Euros/month before taxes) There is no roster(24 hours standby, everyday), you (or the F/O) do everything in and around the airplane, You have to watch flight duty and resttime limitations.... .The list goes on! Lotīs had been promised not much been kept. All this info is not a result of my personal experience, though. Just what they told me. I have never dealt with them. Hope this helps.
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Thanks, 733driver. Being an airline jock now, I know from prev. experience that corporate flying is much more demanding. But if I look at their selection program now you must be ex NASA to fly one of their Citations. Hope the adapted the pay.
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If I am right this used to be the former Grenzland Air. They have recenly (last year) taken over the Martinair Citations. What I heard is not too good. But if staying home is the alternative I would not doubt. And of course you will have to do more yourself as in the big Airlines. . .I cant say anything about the pay but 2000 E seems not no bad as an FO.. .Anyway the guys I know who flew were not to positive afterwards.

Judge yourself.
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In my case, applying as a captain, 3500 Euro's is the salary an F/O gets in my present company. I guess it isn't worth the effort for experienced guys although I'm looking forward to fly those bizjets again.
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Invitation is to attend DLR in Hamburg for psychometric tests then if you pass that you get to their fixed base trainer ( we can change the panels to make it in to any type of aircraft) in Zurich for a further assessment. Pay is around 8000DM (yes I know its Euros everywhere now but this is what I was told by them) for a Captain before taxes etc.

For a bizjet job which doesnt pay to well they really want people to jump through hoops!
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I've seen their website.

What aircraft types would you likely be trained on if you didn't have the specific experience?

. .Which aircraft would you likely be placed on? Does anyone who is interviewing know which aircraft are likely to have vacancies?

. .Cheers
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A friend of mine just left them after flying for. .1 year CJ 1.Pay was for him around 1000 Euro after. .Tax.Itīs better than no job,sure but be aware...
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What's a Euro?
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You`re joking, right? The Euro is the new currency of most EU countries. Being from "around", maybe you ought to get around more.
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The Euro at this point is around 87 cents in U.S currency. I guess you have been hiding somewhere for a bit? The German outfit is paying about $3046 USD /month for f/o's which doesn't seem like a whole pile of dough pretax? <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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Sounds like they should change their name.
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