Easyjet crews and Revised taxes in Germany?
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Robot, you're paranoid! Are you under the impression that HMCR can trace you merely because you take a look at their website? You watch too many spy movies I think.
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Basically if you are German then you have nothing to worry about when it comes to the past;
german tax office that the untaxed part of UK income is NOT to be taxed
in Germany for the PAST ? Guess there are several years of tax declarations
due and it might be interesting to be able to proof that possibly, if asked.
Where is that written, that they are not allowed to touch it ?
Pls don´t answer "read the agreement", I did so but couldn´t really figure out.
Any comments (copy´n´paste?) appreciated.
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UK Tax Authorities
Sorry to shatter any illusions but HMRC will most likely already be well aware of any German domestic changes in interpretation of tax treatment of DTA or indeed generally when it comes to Aircrew.
I have up to date experience of the UK tax position for Aircrew and have successfully defended many from HMRC enquiry.
Furthermore I fully anticipate that UK HMRC were instrumental in driving this through and that they wish to see such changes on a Global basis (i.e. when possible rule out any instances of Double Non Taxation).
It would seem to be a matter of HMRC thinking that “if we can no longer tax you then someone else should”
No doubt the debate will continue about fairness and some might even seek to moralise but recalling a comment from a senior HMRC enquiry officer some years back now- “since when has tax been fair”.
Outrageous perhaps, but any new rules need consideration and action.
Changing tack slightly but do stay with this-did any of you see how easily the UK HMRC recently gained orders for the banks to disclose details of offshore account holders to them?
Again HMRC will be aware of individuals on overseas basings and those with valid Non Residence claims and up to date UK tax affairs have nothing to worry about from UK tax authorities.
Will Germany and other host countries ask for information under the exchange of information articles of the DTA with UK and in turn will HMRC then approach the company for instance in respect of listings of those based within Germany?
Interesting to wonder how hard a company might try to legally defend such action or simply comply at the outset?
A much more straightforward link can be made via any local host country payrolls of course.
Again not a problem if your overall tax obligations are kept in order on a timely basis and given that any new rules are followed.
Best tip is to look to the future and adapt accordingly with up to date professional advice regarding the latest position within your host country as well as keeping your UK tax affairs in order.
Again hope that this is of some help.
DJS
I have up to date experience of the UK tax position for Aircrew and have successfully defended many from HMRC enquiry.
Furthermore I fully anticipate that UK HMRC were instrumental in driving this through and that they wish to see such changes on a Global basis (i.e. when possible rule out any instances of Double Non Taxation).
It would seem to be a matter of HMRC thinking that “if we can no longer tax you then someone else should”
No doubt the debate will continue about fairness and some might even seek to moralise but recalling a comment from a senior HMRC enquiry officer some years back now- “since when has tax been fair”.
Outrageous perhaps, but any new rules need consideration and action.
Changing tack slightly but do stay with this-did any of you see how easily the UK HMRC recently gained orders for the banks to disclose details of offshore account holders to them?
Again HMRC will be aware of individuals on overseas basings and those with valid Non Residence claims and up to date UK tax affairs have nothing to worry about from UK tax authorities.
Will Germany and other host countries ask for information under the exchange of information articles of the DTA with UK and in turn will HMRC then approach the company for instance in respect of listings of those based within Germany?
Interesting to wonder how hard a company might try to legally defend such action or simply comply at the outset?
A much more straightforward link can be made via any local host country payrolls of course.
Again not a problem if your overall tax obligations are kept in order on a timely basis and given that any new rules are followed.
Best tip is to look to the future and adapt accordingly with up to date professional advice regarding the latest position within your host country as well as keeping your UK tax affairs in order.
Again hope that this is of some help.
DJS
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Retrospective or Not -yes it seems it can be but...
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Does this help?
http://elink.allenovery.com/getFile....5-15ac73a45d6f
looks on my first reading that it can be retrospective for all years where assessment notice has not become final ,in some instances but do now see PS below.
Can only agree with others and suggest again that its best to take up to date advice from a tax professional within Germany or any other relevant host country.
Cheers
DJS
PS having looked at this again then with "income not previously taxed because of receipt by a non resident of other country ( ie UK)" then it would not appear to be retrospective after all in those circumstances.
Clear as mud perhaps but it underlines the complex nature of the potential minefield and need for expert interpretation of exactly how and when this will be applied on German side.
Apologies for any confusion created by attempting to post this quickly in first instance today.
DJS
Does this help?
http://elink.allenovery.com/getFile....5-15ac73a45d6f
looks on my first reading that it can be retrospective for all years where assessment notice has not become final ,in some instances but do now see PS below.
Can only agree with others and suggest again that its best to take up to date advice from a tax professional within Germany or any other relevant host country.
Cheers
DJS
PS having looked at this again then with "income not previously taxed because of receipt by a non resident of other country ( ie UK)" then it would not appear to be retrospective after all in those circumstances.
Clear as mud perhaps but it underlines the complex nature of the potential minefield and need for expert interpretation of exactly how and when this will be applied on German side.
Apologies for any confusion created by attempting to post this quickly in first instance today.
DJS
Last edited by DJS; 9th Aug 2007 at 10:58. Reason: Re read article
