Are there any nice companies out there?
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well i work for TFLy and like all the other posts its a sorted place. The ability to decline a change outside the 2 hours block window means you can plan a social life. Roster a month in advance and stable. The money is good, the pension has wobbled in the past but teh smart momney says its stable. However if you are a high hour F/O you may be waiting a long time for a 737 command esp with the merger of some very senior F/O from First Choice. Thats the only fly in the ointment, some F/O's are doing 2 days poss 3 a month and they have the best painted houses in the north of england.
Howevere as someone else stated teh godo places are the places with a stong BALPA union its worth a thought. If you want a quick command and a pot of cash then go orange at TFLY you join for the long term and teh seniority list is King/Queen.
The people are all smiley and very rarely do you ever hear anyone moan in a crew room about the T's and C's that tells me a lot ...
a happy Tflyer
Howevere as someone else stated teh godo places are the places with a stong BALPA union its worth a thought. If you want a quick command and a pot of cash then go orange at TFLY you join for the long term and teh seniority list is King/Queen.
The people are all smiley and very rarely do you ever hear anyone moan in a crew room about the T's and C's that tells me a lot ...
a happy Tflyer
It would be nice to leave this so-called "major airline" ( now degraded to a commodity business) several years early and work a few years for a good company before leaving the industry.
It is uncommon to read about a large US airline which makes the conscious (so-called "upper mgmt") decision to put its people first, along with the passengers.
Few large airline upper mgmts here deserve to have the words begin with capital letters. But some of the damage to careers is not caused only by upper mgmts.
Unfortunately, the pilot union leaders are typically widebody pilots who allow their narrowbody 'brothers/sisters' to live with the unreasonable results of their negotiations, resulting in far fewer negative influences on the lives of those widebody pilots.
They even screw up the lives of narrowbody pilots to a larger degree, when they are allowed to create unnecessary changes to computer bidding.
AGAIN, not all, but certain widebody
"perfumed princes" in charge of our lowly, peasant, narrowbody lives. When will such irresponsible actions end?
I'm quite ready and willing to join a narrowbody mutiny, if a steely-eyed leader with the appropriate skills will step up and begin the battle here.
It is uncommon to read about a large US airline which makes the conscious (so-called "upper mgmt") decision to put its people first, along with the passengers.
Few large airline upper mgmts here deserve to have the words begin with capital letters. But some of the damage to careers is not caused only by upper mgmts.
Unfortunately, the pilot union leaders are typically widebody pilots who allow their narrowbody 'brothers/sisters' to live with the unreasonable results of their negotiations, resulting in far fewer negative influences on the lives of those widebody pilots.
They even screw up the lives of narrowbody pilots to a larger degree, when they are allowed to create unnecessary changes to computer bidding.
AGAIN, not all, but certain widebody
"perfumed princes" in charge of our lowly, peasant, narrowbody lives. When will such irresponsible actions end?I'm quite ready and willing to join a narrowbody mutiny, if a steely-eyed leader with the appropriate skills will step up and begin the battle here.
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NOT BA!
Been here for quite a few years now, both long and shorthaul, and wouldn't join again if I could turn back the clock. Feel kind of trapped here now (as with many other guys here), but still looking around and may well be brave enough one day to move.
Good job security, and ability to transfer between fleets are the best part of the job.
Management bullies and truly awful cabin crew are a couple of the worst bits, and the lack of any sort of respect from any other part of the company.... definately just thought of as bus drivers now!
Good luck in your search, let us know if you do find a nice company!
Been here for quite a few years now, both long and shorthaul, and wouldn't join again if I could turn back the clock. Feel kind of trapped here now (as with many other guys here), but still looking around and may well be brave enough one day to move.
Good job security, and ability to transfer between fleets are the best part of the job.
Management bullies and truly awful cabin crew are a couple of the worst bits, and the lack of any sort of respect from any other part of the company.... definately just thought of as bus drivers now!
Good luck in your search, let us know if you do find a nice company!
I second Hotel Hoppers comments on BA. It used to be brilliant, but over the years muppet managers have made it an unhappy place to be.
Edited to say the managers are muppets, not those they purport to manage!
Edited to say the managers are muppets, not those they purport to manage!
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BA trained me, and gave me my first job, on shorthaul on a jet. I then got the chance to fly the Jumbo with them, and saw the world (albeit briefly). I've now just got a command with them, after 8 years, so the "twenty years to command" stuff some have written is patent bollocks.
No, it's not perfect, and LHR is a right pain in the ass. I don't know any different, as I have only worked for BA, but from where I'm sitting, I wouldn't leave my current job. And of course the longer you stay in any job, the harder it is to leave, with incremental payscales, seniority etc.
No, it's not perfect, and LHR is a right pain in the ass. I don't know any different, as I have only worked for BA, but from where I'm sitting, I wouldn't leave my current job. And of course the longer you stay in any job, the harder it is to leave, with incremental payscales, seniority etc.
