Thomsonfly rumour control

[tflier]

So has it finally leaked out that there will be dual 737ng/767 ratings for the LGW guys...will p###s off those 75/76 f/o's who have been waiting for their command when the 737 dec capts get there first. Possible forced base moves too.
Interesting times ahead!?

[Heffer]

I was led to believe you can't actively fly both the 73G and B757 on your licence, except perhaps a CP under a special exemption maybe.

[tflier]

Tfly have been approved by the CAA for mixed fleet flying between the B737 AND B75/76.

[StudentInDebt]

My understanding is that MFF will only be allowed on the 73NG and 757 rather than the 767.

[MAX]

Yawn.

MAX

[tflier]

I think you have an exagerated sense of your own importance Max. If it's not interesting to you then why take the time to waste bytes.
Remember this is a rumour network, I humbly remind you.

[MAX]

Mixed fleet flying and the CAA approval is old news. Hardly a rumour.

Your first post seemed to be trolling for a catfight between seasoned F/O's and 737 DEC's.

Thats what I find boring.

MAX

[Donnie Brascoe]

possible forced base moves ? Explain that as that may have a big impact on a lot of people .. whre from and where to ? I am assuming that with teh forced base move those being forced to move will be paid the required amount according to the MOA ???

[bundybear]

Tflier,
Any F/O waiting for a 75/6 command, after all the fleet expansion plan explanations, basing policy rumours,and statements for at least a year to the extent that there will not be anymore promotions on the 75/6 fleet, quite frankly is a fool. There are F/O's on command courses as we speak, who have been in the company for less 3 years. So any senior F/O, not on a command course has either not bid for one, or been deemed "not eligible".
MAX is right, stirrers are boring.

[b.anakin]

This is good news. All the extra work required to fly two totally different types must surely be rewarded with a commensurate salary rise.

Dream on.........

[Bluebaron]

Hi have seen no information to comfirm this rumour exept that the STN guys have been offered 737NG courses for free if they want to leave following their base closure.

BB

[000]

DECs vs senior FOs?

Is it a joke? Guys who joined as DECs where proposed the job and they would have been quite stupid to turn it down. This simply happened because in house FOs were not bidding for the job, that's all. The old aviation saying "never turn down any upgrade" seems to be true.
On the other hand those DECs are a very good financial move for Tfly as they are the cheapest Capts they have ever had with a seniority close to zero.
Concerning MFF and DECs, I really don't see that happening in the near future. Guys flying MFF will be selected according to the seniority list, so DECs should be among the last ones to do it.
Anyway all that is just rumours, wait and see and in the meantime enjoy getting paid for so little flying!

[StudentInDebt]

This simply happened because in house FOs were not bidding for the job, that's all.

Rubbish! DEC recruitment took place because the company had no means to train the volume of captains required to start the low cost operation. Britannia pilots were not offered the opportunity to bid for commands on the new operation until late in the process and even then only limited numbers could be sent to Hapag-Lloyd to get their command training. There was an intial reluctance to move to Thomsonfly from Britannia once it started operations because there was a wide variance in terms and conditions, once BALPA negotiated the Thomsonfly pilots back onto the Britannia contracts and a free bid was offered there was rush to join, so much so that again the company could not cope with the training requirements so more DECs were needed.

[Donnie Brascoe]

I think you will find that the majority of DEC's started on the old terms and conditions which were at the time way inferior of the 757 fleet terms and conditions. It would also seem that those F/O's who are now transfering across, transfer across to a much higher salary band as a Captain than those DEC's who joined 3/4 years ago. This is of course correct and its the seniority list balancing itself out so nobody has actually lost out. Mind you i thought the rumour was MFF by base not seniority which given the cost sensitive nature of TFLy would be the logical choice if you were a bean counter in Luton, not so logical if you have been here 10 years...

Answers on a postcard to John Cravens Newsround c/o BBC

[blue up]

How does MFF fit in with OPC/LPC and line checks? More sim time or the same? I'm wondering about our capacity for this. More outsourced sim guys?

[A Very Civil Pilot]

At the moment on the 737 we do an LPC every 6 months; alternating classic then NG. The reason aparanetly is to get the system accustomed to it for when MFF is operational, and we'll* be doing 737/ 'something else' LPCs.
(*in reality 'you'll' be doing MFF as my seniority precudes it!)

[Donnie Brascoe]

NewsFlash

The rumour is there are no rumours ???

Normal service will be resumed shortly

[A Very Civil Pilot]

Schlittlenellie

Yes you are correct regarding the classic/NG LPC requirement, as it is seen as the same type. The point is that if we are doing an LPC each 6 months, when the MFF kicks in and we'll be flying 737/757, they'll both be current at the same time (albeit with different expiry dates).

[Bluebaron]

I've still not heard anything about this? Where did this rumour come from?

BB

[whatdoesthisbuttondo]

What is the source of this story?

I doubt it's true.