When do Ryanair tell you your base?

[Atlantic crossing]

As the title asks, at what stage of the selection process do Ryanair notify you of your base. Looking at a change from my present employer but the right base would be important in choosing Ryanair. Are you told before joining if you get your preferred base.

[richarjm]

As far as I can gather from other guys I started with, if they want you enough you will get the base you ask for straight away. As ever nothing is completely guaranteed though but they are seemingly trying to base people where they want to be asap. If you have the right experience and they see you as the right sort, whatever that may mean, you'll be fine.

[Hobbit]

There are new SOs (whatever that means) who finish training, remain on a training contract and are then put on a 'Brookfield' contract and sent to A N Other base. Brookfield contracts will eventually see pilots in prison for evading tax. There are only so many ways to tell people not to join Ryanair! In answer to your question, it depends, but don't believe it until you are there! Over a year in and I still don't have a signed contract from them!

[captjns]

"Hobbit - Brookfield contracts will eventually see pilots in prison for evading tax."

I don't mean to cause controversy, but thats a pretty serious statement. How many pilots do you know that have work or worked for Brookfield, exclusively, that also work or worked for Ryanair, that have been or are in prison for such action as you state?

[Boy]

captjns with respect I think that was an expression of opinion qualified by the word "eventually". It is an expression of opinion that has been aired before too.

As for the unfortunate poster who started the thread, as I long-time reader of PPRuNe I can tell you that even if you are told you are going to a particular base it means nothing. Your base and working conditions can be, and often are, changed arbitrarily. Promises are meaningless. All of this, with much evidence and comment is repeated in various topic threads here on PPRuNe. Do a search and set aside a week to read everything. When you are finished if you want to join Ryanair .....

[olegmurphy]

Heyyyy come on in ,the water's lovely.
Surrrre you can have the base you want.
We're the best paying airline in the world.
We have the best rosters. 5 on 4 off.
Best share options.
None of our pilots leave.
As much leave as you want.
You'll not find a bad word said about us.

[captjns]

Boy - I was not questioning the base assignments or request. Only the statement made by Hobbit. Adults can make decisions as they deem appropriate as to where and who they desire to be employed by.

[Hobbit]

captjns, if a captain has been at Ryanair on a Brookfield contract for 5 years earning 100,000 Euros per annum and he gets caught by the taxman he will owe in excess of 30,000 Euros per year in tax. 150,000 Euro tax bill, nobody has that kind of money therefore 'probably' / 'possibly' a term in prison would seem likely.
Just my take on it, possibly wrong.

[captjns]

Again, Hobbit, you are presuming that all pilots that work for this Brookfield are dishonest and don't pay their taxes. Being a gamgling man, I'll wager the proportion of those who are on vacation in "Club Fed", because of tax evasion, far exceed the numbers of crewmembers under contract with Brookfield, Parc, Storm, or what ever.

[Ramsey]

I have still not met a contract pilot who pays tax of everything he/she earns. Brookfield are currently under investigation by the inland revenue. And if I was a contractor with Brookfield I would start looking for money to pay the tax man.

[delwy]

Atlantic crossing you would be foolish to expect a permanent or guaranteed base in Ryanair (no matter what they promise). You might get one for as long as you are there, but that would be luck (or grovelling, or being prepared to do them "favours", etc.).

[Mastergringomann]

Brazilian pilots

I would like to know if there are any brazilians flying for Ryanair

[Rippa]

Gringo,

There are lots of Brazilian pilots working for Ryanair, (I know a few of them). Ryanair was a good option for the ex-VARIG guys. If you need any info about that, PM me.

[aftrburner]

Bases

If you are joining RyanAir directly, you should be told your base during training or you can make it part of your conditions in the contract. My class knew their bases the first week of training.

A work of warning........stay clear of Brookfield. From personal experience. Just my opinion.

[thebeast]

if you join as an FO /SO , your base is assigned after line training is finished, you can say which ones you'd prefer but when push come to shove its where the spaces are, and if they decide thats Dublin then you will go on the Brookfield deal.

[skyflyer737]

Could someone explain the Brookfield situation please?

I'm about to start my type rating as a cadet at Ryanair and am wondering whether I'll end up on a Ryanair contract or a Brookfield contract. Does it depend which base you're assigned?

Thanks
Skyflyer737

[olegmurphy]

Your base will be Dublin on a Brookfield contract, as the company can't get anyone to go there apart from new guys on a take it or leave it deal.
6 more A/C arriving there soon and not enough crews.

[Aloue]

If you are joining RyanAir directly, you should be told your base during training or you can make it part of your conditions in the contract. My class knew their bases the first week of training.

You might be told your base - but that does not mean you will get it. If you make it a condition of your contract you will be exceptional. However, you will sign a clause in the same contract accepting that they can change your base as and when they want (I know a pilot whose base was changed with four days notice, two of which were days off - during which he had to move from STN to Rome).

Pilots who are often told things at Ryanair interviews which VERY frequently are not honoured. How often, just how often, does this have to be said? The fact that somebody has had an apparently "normal" experience, as indicated by the quote above, is meaningless in comparision to the repeated experience of many, many more.

We are not making this stuff up. Every Ryanair pilot who comes here and tells you these things is not much pleased when the same people reading these warnings (one presumes) turn up on REPA a few months later talking about how they have been mislead and abused.

When you buy a type rating from Ryanair you become in their eyes a source of profit and a commodity, not a pilot.

[potkettleblack]

Interested to know why is Dublin suddenly out of flavour? Does Brookfield only place cadets at Dublin or could someone on a Brookfield contract end up being moved away from Dublin? I know that the permanent guys can be shoved around with little notice but am interested to know if there is more certainty of your base if you go down the Brookfield route? Cheers

[olegmurphy]

Because the Dublin pilots were the first to unite, the company decided that they needed to reduce the number of permanent positions there.
They now only place contractors there in the belief that they will continue to work through any industrial action if it comes.
However I think they will see that all of the bases are now united against them.
Watch things unfold over the coming weeks......