Humbug

6 months before they kick in I'm afraid - but most of that will be training so unless you are a commuter the wait shouldn't be too painful.
J-Upper
W-Premium
Z fares are the way VS and many airline do their ID90 standby fare equivalent. Z for zones and charged by the zone. Google 'ZED fares' for more info. Cheers

srjumbo

Good grief! If you're thinking of joining or are about to join then your efforts should be in getting as much info as you can on the aircraft type, the training and the routes, not the staff travel because if you fail the course then no staff travel, in fact no job!

Bad Robot

That's a bit harsh isn't it?

The poor guy's just excited about joining a new company and a very good one at that.

I'm sure his maunuals and DVD's are smokin!


BR.

coded_messages

Whooaa there boy...

Prep has been done and is still ongoing By the way what if I am already current on type and know many of the routes already

Peace

scroggs

Don't bite, CM. I'll explain all this stuff to you when we next meet. SRJ is not your most positive source of info about VS, for reaons I totally understand.

Scroggs

Big Junglie

At the risk of incurring the wrath of any SRJ types out there I was hoping somebody would be able to point me in the direction of some pay scales for Virgin. I join the Airbus fleet within a couple of months (and really, really, really looking forward to it! ) and have followed the other pay threads through but can find no recent info. Also some of my muckers in my present company (having just been bought out) are looking at some serious maths to see whether it is worth jumping ship or not!
Any help appreciated

Sgnr de L'Atlantique

Can somebody please explain me how the VAA recruitment actually works?

I have been on the list for over 4 years now.

I have a JAA ATPL and current JAA Class I medical

I have 2200hrs A330 and 2600 Hrs A320

I am a EU citizen with right to live in the UK ( passport from just across the channel DVR-KOK)



But NEVER EVER did I receive any reply from the recruitment department. Not a negative nor a positive reply. I have updated my resume every 6 months just like they ask etc...


Can somebody please tell me whats going on? I really would like to know what is going on.

I am getting the feeling that I am being ignored because I am no UK citizen nor do I have a UK issued ATPL ( its the same but virtually impossible to obtain if not working for a UK carrier or when not living in the UK)

All info more than wellcome...

scroggs

There are many non-UK pilots in Virgin, though I'm pretty sure all will have converted to a UK-issued ATPL on or before joining VS. Why you haven't received a reply I can only guess is down to the sheer numbers of well-qualified people applying to Virgin. I can only suggest that you mail them at [email protected] to ask for confirmation that they have your application.

A thought: have you ever completed the online application procedure? I'm pretty sure that is now the primary (only?) way to get your application accepted. If you haven't done it, I suggest you do.

Big Junglie, I think PPJN has the current pay rates at Virgin. At worst they'll only be a few months out of date. Roughly speaking, on joining you will be on around £59k pa including variable pay.

Big Junglie

Thanks scroggs, Ill give PPJN a go.... all that and £59k All I have to do now is pass the course

stansdead

Bigjunglie,

As scroggs says, that's about right.

I joined in Nov 2006 on £44500 basic. In january 2007 this rose by 2.5%.

This year FO's get about £16 per hour in variable pay, which adds the extra £13000 or so, based on 750 hours a year.

You can also add all your allowances downroute into the mix, which are NOT included in Scroggs' total.

norton2005

Could anyone who currently works at virgin post on a typical roster at virgin. ive read scroggs roster for the A340, id also like to hear a typical roster on the 744.

coded_messages

Hi Stans

With regard to allowances down route do you usually get any left over?

NAT Zulu

CM,

Depends on how much you can drink

Seriously though, the allowances are pretty generous and based on the cost of subsistance at each individual place we stay. Since the hotels we stay in are generally of a quite nice standard....the meal prices are reasonably expensive and this is what the money is worked out on.
Venture outside and you instantly reduce your outgoings whilst retaining the same income so to speak! In a year and a half with the company, I have never been short of money whilst away and have quite frequently brought some home. That includes trips where I have done all sorts of activities from skiing to skydiving!

fast cruiser

Norton2005
You can generally expect to do 4 to 5 trips per month on the 747, you will get very used to orlando and the caribbean but in a nutshell:-
LGW-MCO
2 days off
LGW-LAS
3 days off
LHR-JFK
2 days off
LGW-ANU
2 or 3 days off depending on trip length
MAN-MCO
The 747 fleet is spread accross LHR,LGW and MAN so if you are a commuter MAN is popular but it all depends on personal circustances.. one of the downsides of the boeing fleet is we generally have to do an extra trip each month to get the same amount of flying hours in as the airbus because our destinations tend to be closer.
hope that helps
cheers
fc

judge.oversteer

Go down to Crawley with your CV and and knock on the door.
Rgds

Big Junglie

Thanks for the info stansdead, can anyone put a £/annum figure on the downroute allowances, some of the Cpt's in my present company need to do some damage limitation if they jump ship to the RHS!! Personally, I'm happy either way

scroggs

Allowances average around £80 per day - or, rather, night. Most months you would probably have around 5 to 8 nights in hotels downroute (out of 15 to 19 days away from home). Therefore you can expect around £500 or so a month in allowances.

scroggs

Rosters were covered several times in the original Virgin thread. A sample 744 roster is here. You'll also find more info about pay and allowances towards the end of that thread.

easyprison

Thanks for posting those Virgin rosters on PPRUNE, very interesting. I always held Virgin as being a lifestyle airline, but looking at those roster's I would prefer my roster of 5/3/5/4. A long haul lifestyle i.e. being away from your loved ones should be rewarded with a lot more time off at home. 2 or three days is just enough to recover from Jet lag, empty you suit case before dragging your self away again.

springbok449

easyprison,

If lifestyle is what you are looking for then get away from 5/3/5/4.
Whats the good of being at home with your loved ones if you re shattered because you have to do 5 earlies in a row?

I used to do it, dont know how I ever did it, the fixed pattern roster is not flexible you cant request RDOs if you need a day off outside your pattern, you have to go to bed before your kids otherwise you go to work tired....

For sure by doing longhaul you wont be at home every night but when you are at home on average 15 days off a month on the 340 for me you will be able to spend QUALITY time with your loved ones or is it the command thats keeping you there, all of us that moved over (including skippers) no of us regret making the move.