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Old 2nd Oct 2006, 13:26
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Question EZY Questions, EZY Answers (Easyjet)

Hello all. I am looking for some information concerning EZY and their hiring policy. Looking at the website does not give me the answers I need, and I do not have a phone number to call.
Experience: 9000+ hrs. TT, B727 1500 hrs. PIC, B737NG 600 hrs. PIC, A320 1500 hrs PIC
FAA ATPL, European passport. I have started the process to convert to a UK ATPL.
Several questions to those in the know at EZY. Can I be considered at EZY without a JAR Licence in hand with the expectation I would have it at start of training? I hesitate to spend @ £2800 for the needed LST/LPC without a job offer. As I do not have the JAR Licence I am guessing the internet application cannot go forward as that box would remain “open”.
Second, can I complete all the necessary requirements for the UK conversion except for the simulator check as that would be repeated in training and thus the UK ATPL would be issued?
My thanks in advance to anyone at EZY who can shed light on these questions. Please feel free to PM me.
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Old 2nd Oct 2006, 14:14
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It's worth asking them but I have to say that at the moment there are no shortage of applicants so they would be unlikely to say yes regarding the sim check.

Once you have the JAR ATPL then with your experience it would be a different matter.

Best of luck though.
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Scottie, appreciate the response. Looking at the usual suspects I guessed you might be one to reply.
Are you EDI or GLA based?
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skytrekker - I would be a little more blunt than Scottie. Regardless of your past experience, you do not have a JAR licence and are therefore not qualified to fly for easyJet or indeed any other European airline. At this moment you are therefore unemployable in the European airline industry. Your application will not be processed without that licence. There are no shortcuts and easyJet are unlikely to enter into discussion with you on the subject.

For what it is worth, I back easyJet 100% on this, because they simply do not have the time or resources to deal with what is essentially a personal problem for the individual pilot. As Scottie has said, there is no shortage of qualified applicants. Were easyJet to enter into discussion with individuals who are unqualified, their scarce resources would be unnecessarily diverted from the main task of recruiting the right people from the large list of qualified pilots. Best of luck with the exams!
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Old 2nd Oct 2006, 17:44
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... i would say just apply. i kind of have the same issue you do (b737 type and faa atp+ euro pass). i got in contact with someone from ryanair, he told me they can hire you but they have to process your application through some of their agencies. same thing with thomsonfly (on their website they were acceoting applicants with 737 type and faa atp). like io said, apply and see what happens
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easyJet is not Ryanair - we are not roaming round the world looking for anyone who has some form of flying licence. I have the screening document in front of me that will be used to assess your application. You, alas, will not get past that phase if they know you have an FAA ATPL. If you mislead them and turn up at an interview without the necessary licence your assessment day will stop there and then - you will not be asked back. They will be seriously hacked off if you have taken up one of their valuable slots at an assessment day when you are not employable. I personally would strongly advise you against applying until you have the correct licence.
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Old 3rd Oct 2006, 03:31
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"easyJet is not Ryanair - we are not roaming round the world looking for anyone who has some form of flying licence"
Why are there so many oz & kiwis working for you?
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Once upon a time, there was a "British Empire"!
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"easyJet is not Ryanair - we are not roaming round the world looking for anyone who has some form of flying licence"


Maybe if you did , easyjet wouldn't have to cancel hundreds of flights and have lots of 757's from 'around the world' flying subcharters.
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If Easy has enough crews, why then does my airline have to fly ad-hoc charters for them on a regular basis due to EZY's lack of flightcrew?
And we are competition! (well not really as we are Scotlands National Airline )

Sorry, but it seems that some people within the orange brigade need to lower their noses...
I am certain that all airlines are suffering from the same problem: a severe lack of EXPERIENCED pilots on B737/A320.
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Storming Norman - Ryanair is over crewed with pilots at the moment. This will change when the next batch of aircraft arrive (this month I think) but we are not desperatley short crews like EZY. I know you know your stuff when it comes to all things orange but you know nothing about Ryanair other than what you read on these forums (which is hardly balanced or fair). Please stop the Ryanair bashing.
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Come on guys. NSF is just describing a regulatory requirement that is imposed by JAA Authority to any company operating under its scope...
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but we are not desperatley short crews like EZY
I see... So all those sub-chartered aircraft and cancelled flights from January untill April, when your callender year for FTLs starts, must have been a figment of our imaginations?
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Wizofoz; April was 7 months ago. A lot can happen in that time. I'm not trying to be smart, it just bugs me when people throw out statements about Ryanair as if they are facts when they are completely untrue. Regards, GLAF
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GLAF - I stand by my assertion regarding 'Ryanair roaming round the world looking for pilots with some form of flying licence'. Your company have recruited widely in Eastern Europe and anywhere else they think they can pick up pilots with the necessary licences. I saw only recently a PPRUNE banner advertising a Ryanair recruitment day in Belgrade. A number of your pilots I have heard on the radio seem to have significant difficulty in speaking English to the level you would expect. In addition, as has been indicated by another contributor, the agencies through whom you recruit pilots offer assistance in converting licences from outside the JAR countries to acceptable licences to operate in Europe. In essence, if you can fly a 737 or similar type, and any way can be found to get you the right to work in Europe, then no stone is left unturned by the various agencies charged with recruiting on Ryanair's behalf. It is for others to decide if that is a desireable state of affairs - it is nonetheless true.

Incidentally, although I cannot quote you exact figures, I understand our manning crisis is temporarily over. We are in full recruitment at the moment but that is largely against future expansion. There is no doubt we faced a crewing crisis over the Summer and consequently we subbed out a number of flights (£8m is the figure I have heard quoted for the losses incurred in so doing). No doubt a significant factor in the improved situation is that BA and Virgin have temporarily stopped recruiting on the scale they did earlier this year, which has resulted in fewer resignations. We still have not quite got the balance of FOs/Capts correct, but that is improving all the time. Also, notwithstanding the fact that it would not take much disruption to create another crewing crisis, we are fundamentally ticking over reasonably well.
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Old 4th Oct 2006, 07:26
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Good airmanship is not exclusive to pilots with UK issued JAR ATPL's. Having operated widebodies worldwide and flown with and trained dozens of different Eastern European and Non European pilots I can definativley tell you their ethnic background has NOTHING to do with how well or otherwise they operate the aircraft. If I was a Pilot from Belgrade I'd be shocked at your level of ignorance.

Your lack of judgement skills, your prejudice and your obvious inexperiance speak volumes for you. Shame on you.
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Sorry for being a bit cynical about this but Ryanair is all about control. The main reason to go all round the world to acquire pilots is to dilute the strength of pilot power. They find it much easier to get what they want i.e. lower pay and conditions.
For instance as they are doing at the moment, employing pilots from Brazil, the pay deal they will have offered will look fantastic to them, so they will be no problem to them when the next pay round starts (dispute). I might add I do question the actions of Ryanair some of these pilots are direct entry left seat, I am sure some of them have NEVER SEEN SNOW!
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'Ryanair roaming round the world looking for pilots with some form of flying licence'
Perhaps next time you turn up at work and look around the crewroom you will see pilots from USA, Canada, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Bahrain, UAE, Singapore, Malaysia, India, Pakistan, Brazil, Mexico, Hong Kong, South Africa and of course the Australians and Kiwis.
I find your attitude for somebody who works at the politically correct easyjet bordering on being rascist.

"I understand our manning crisis is temporarily over"
Why are Air Finland still flying out of luton?
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Well I'd have to concede that there is nothing 'over' about EZY's manning 'crisis'. Of the 400+ pilots required, just under half of them are to address the current shortage. Easyjet have no problem with hiring foreign nationals. The understanding is however that they must speak good english and have a JAA ATPL. What exactly is the problem with that? Those are the entry requirements. Unfortunatley many (probably very competent) pilots have failed the selection due to lack of good english. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
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no problem with that at all, perfectly understandable and very well put, unlike your colleague NSF (if he is one).
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