Vueling
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From: EU
I hope Vueling will pay their first officer a little more. we do a hard job and we have invested lot of money in our training. If you want keep your pilots, pay them more!!! this is not only for Vueling, but for any companies. vueling does not pay for your type rating! only for highly experienced pilots.
pilots join Vueling to fly the 320 (Airbus school?).
You can barely survive if you are single (no kids)...
pilots join Vueling to fly the 320 (Airbus school?).
You can barely survive if you are single (no kids)...
Last edited by dartagnan; 16th March 2007 at 18:20.
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From: Europa
I notice Vueling do a number of W's and it made me wonder what's the longest shift someone can work at Vueling??
For example BCN - BRU - VLC - BRU - BCN takes from 06h45 - 17h40.
That's an 11 hour shift!! Are there even longer shifts? What's the legal limit?
For example BCN - BRU - VLC - BRU - BCN takes from 06h45 - 17h40.
That's an 11 hour shift!! Are there even longer shifts? What's the legal limit?
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From: germany
flight duty time
charly roy,
according to jar ops regulations, crew planning is allowed to plan you for a max 12 hrs duty time (incl. check in/out), which is allowed to be exceeded by max 2 hrs.
only in extraordinary cases (not foreseeable! technical out base, i.e.) this time might be exceeded by another 2 hrs with commanders decision (i did that only once or twice in my career, but preferrably 16 hrs duty than an overnight without clothes at a scary place
).
so, in fact you are allowed to be planned 12 hrs duty prior to your duty start.
i mean thats more than enough, isn´t it?!
rgds410
according to jar ops regulations, crew planning is allowed to plan you for a max 12 hrs duty time (incl. check in/out), which is allowed to be exceeded by max 2 hrs.
only in extraordinary cases (not foreseeable! technical out base, i.e.) this time might be exceeded by another 2 hrs with commanders decision (i did that only once or twice in my career, but preferrably 16 hrs duty than an overnight without clothes at a scary place
).so, in fact you are allowed to be planned 12 hrs duty prior to your duty start.
i mean thats more than enough, isn´t it?!
rgds410
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From: Charlotte, NC USA
Spanish labor laws
Good morning,
I am looking for a post age 60 job in Europe. I am a current A320 Captain for a major U.S. carrier. Can anyone you advise me on the labor laws in Spain? Does Vueling and Clickair require a JAA conversion.
thanks for any information
I am looking for a post age 60 job in Europe. I am a current A320 Captain for a major U.S. carrier. Can anyone you advise me on the labor laws in Spain? Does Vueling and Clickair require a JAA conversion.
thanks for any information
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From: Germany
Hello, Panther06
I tried to get your focus on your question in another thread.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=267937
I tried to get your focus on your question in another thread.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=267937
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From: Floating around the planet
When you go for an interview at the company they say a Capt. will get , say X money.
You spend two weeks there on an OCC, and then they put a contract in front of you with a salary X/3 (one third) because you are joining as Captain Level 6.
But they don`t tell you this trick.You are going to receive the X salary after 6 years when you reach level 1.
I thought I had a job , so I signed the contract in this terms , and start looking for a job.
After one month I left.
The first month at Vueling you are going to take home 1600 euros
Second , 3800 and third If you fly hard you are going to take home 5000.
Co.pilots.... Poor guys...
Until they start to understand that the market is our side now, it`s a company to get your left seat , or 500 hours and......................................................GO AWAY
You spend two weeks there on an OCC, and then they put a contract in front of you with a salary X/3 (one third) because you are joining as Captain Level 6.
But they don`t tell you this trick.You are going to receive the X salary after 6 years when you reach level 1.
I thought I had a job , so I signed the contract in this terms , and start looking for a job.
After one month I left.
The first month at Vueling you are going to take home 1600 euros
Second , 3800 and third If you fly hard you are going to take home 5000.
Co.pilots....
Poor guys...Until they start to understand that the market is our side now, it`s a company to get your left seat , or 500 hours and......................................................GO AWAY
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From: EU
I discovered something new at Vueling:
before starting on your line training(and thereafter every 6 months), you have to pass an OPC check(operating procedures check).
if you fail or need extra sim hours, Vueling will ask you to refund hotel, simulator training (at 1000 euro/hour),etc...
it is now the pilot's wallet which set the safety level at Vueling and not the pilot competences by additional training.
Since when an airline jeopardizes the security of his passengers by blackmailing his pilots??specially when they want be called a "new generation airline"
whats the name of the spanish pilots union???I consider to join them.
before starting on your line training(and thereafter every 6 months), you have to pass an OPC check(operating procedures check).
if you fail or need extra sim hours, Vueling will ask you to refund hotel, simulator training (at 1000 euro/hour),etc...
it is now the pilot's wallet which set the safety level at Vueling and not the pilot competences by additional training.
Since when an airline jeopardizes the security of his passengers by blackmailing his pilots??specially when they want be called a "new generation airline"
whats the name of the spanish pilots union???I consider to join them.
Last edited by dartagnan; 1st April 2007 at 11:51.
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From: ireland
Dr Rumack, Did you not read all the previous posts in this thread? The process would seem to be gang bang. What is all this nonsense about jumping into the left seat of a jet? Make your bones on regional carriers,get a living wage , build your hours. When the time is right present yourself to a major carrier as an experienced professional.
Having prostituted yourself to get a 320 rating where will you go? Who will hire you on the money the job deserves when there are a raft of similar young hopefuls with more cash then sense ready to prostitute themselves at your expense?
Having prostituted yourself to get a 320 rating where will you go? Who will hire you on the money the job deserves when there are a raft of similar young hopefuls with more cash then sense ready to prostitute themselves at your expense?
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