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sarah737 - do you work for easyJet? I think you will find that people want to know specific figures of take-home pay. I am not sure that easyJet pilots are currently paying the Italian tax you refer to. Is there someone out there who is an actual easyJet pilot working in Italy who can give a specific and accurate figure?
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Might sound like a trivial question but:-
What exactly is the POINT of the EU if everyone pays differing taxes etc etc
I thought the whole point of the expensive and in my view unjustifiable EU was to make a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD?
What exactly is the POINT of the EU if everyone pays differing taxes etc etc
I thought the whole point of the expensive and in my view unjustifiable EU was to make a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD?
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Originally Posted by Norman Stanley Fletcher
sarah737 - do you work for easyJet? I think you will find that people want to know specific figures of take-home pay. I am not sure that easyJet pilots are currently paying the Italian tax you refer to. Is there someone out there who is an actual easyJet pilot working in Italy who can give a specific and accurate figure?
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Thanks Sarah - I have checked and currently on our intranet system there is some info for the French and German based crew, but there is no specific advice for Milan-based employees. Some enquiries have been made and the situation at the moment is essentially one of limbo. If you are on temporary basing then you just pay UK tax and that is the end of it. The figures given previously on this thread therefore all hold good.
Regarding permanent basing, at the current moment we use a system called the 'S690 scheme' for Italian-based crew which means that in effect you pay little or no UK tax. The good news is that you have a huge net take-home pay but the bad news is that the Italian government are going to want a lot of tax back very soon. As has been stated here, the Italians have higher tax than we do and therefore it is conceivable that you will take home less in Milan than you would do in the UK. The current easyJet line is that salaries are identical (gross) wherever you work but obviously if you pay more tax then you will actually get less money. I am assured that a 'day of reckoning' is going to come in Italy and our crew have been advised to be prepared for a substantial tax bill. At this moment no one knows exactly what that will be. The short answer is that the arrangements for Milan have not yet been finalised but you will be expected to pay any and all due tax. Not very helpful or specific but that is the deal.
Regarding permanent basing, at the current moment we use a system called the 'S690 scheme' for Italian-based crew which means that in effect you pay little or no UK tax. The good news is that you have a huge net take-home pay but the bad news is that the Italian government are going to want a lot of tax back very soon. As has been stated here, the Italians have higher tax than we do and therefore it is conceivable that you will take home less in Milan than you would do in the UK. The current easyJet line is that salaries are identical (gross) wherever you work but obviously if you pay more tax then you will actually get less money. I am assured that a 'day of reckoning' is going to come in Italy and our crew have been advised to be prepared for a substantial tax bill. At this moment no one knows exactly what that will be. The short answer is that the arrangements for Milan have not yet been finalised but you will be expected to pay any and all due tax. Not very helpful or specific but that is the deal.
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I wonder how our FR pilots in BGY get away with not pay tax in italy. As they all seem to be paying the tax in ireland. There might be another arrangement between the taxman in Ireland and Italy.
Thank you very much for your help, both Sara and NSF.
Thank you very much for your help, both Sara and NSF.
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I have checked and currently on our intranet system there is some info for the French and German based crew, but there is no specific advice for Milan-based employees
For those not employed by EJ, this is an internal document and I don't think it appropriate for me to post any details from the document here as the information is freely available for you to research through the various tax authorities at the cost of your own time. If EJ intended it for public viewing it would be on the EJ site with the current T&C's. Or, if you attend an interview and express an interest for Milan, then you may be provided with it then.
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Originally Posted by MercenaryAli
I thought the whole point of the expensive and in my view unjustifiable EU was to make a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD?
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Bloggs 2 - thanks for that. I was indeed looking in the wrong place. Nonetheless, I am sticking to my guns! I have had very direct contact to discuss the matter and it is quite apparent that no one knows with any certainty exactly how much will be taken home in Italy once tax is paid. In the document to which you referred me, the quoted net pay for an Italian-based captain earning a total of £79,338 was about £48,333. This came with big warnings saying it was valid for April 2006 and could not be considered guaranteed. Also, no details of how this figure was arrived at was provided in terms of rates of Italian tax. Finally, the pay for a captain from Oct 06 will be nearer £88k using the same method of calculation for a 2-5 year captain, assuming 500 sectors per annum. I do not know the current euro exchange rate against sterling but I am sure interested parties can do their calcs.
The bottom line is that I am not an expert in this and feel a little out of my depth. No one has really 'pressed to test' yet with the Italian authorities and any quoted figures need to be treated with caution. I will therefore not contribute further to this debate and hope that someone with more insight than me will provide any other appropriate facts as required.
The bottom line is that I am not an expert in this and feel a little out of my depth. No one has really 'pressed to test' yet with the Italian authorities and any quoted figures need to be treated with caution. I will therefore not contribute further to this debate and hope that someone with more insight than me will provide any other appropriate facts as required.
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how long does it take
sounds like conditions are getting better, how long does it take to get this sort of left seat money if I joined in the right seat with 4000 hours (3000 jet).
I have heard two base checks of above average standard, does that include your initial check or is it 12 months down the line.
I have heard two base checks of above average standard, does that include your initial check or is it 12 months down the line.
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So is the salary non-incremental? Does a first year Captain recieve the same as a 10 year one?
Can anyone tell me how the pension works.
How much per year would an Easyjet Captain receive when they retire?
Can anyone tell me how the pension works.
How much per year would an Easyjet Captain receive when they retire?
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difficult to answer as it depends on so many factors,
how long were you in the scheme? (how much company contriubted)
did you take the salary exchange?
did you additionally contribute?
what was the compound interest growth?
As I understand it it's a money purchase scheme which allows the purchase of an annuity with some or all of the final amount, same as 95% of employers out there.
There are pension calculators out there into which you can enter figures and it gives you an ESTIMATED figure.
how long were you in the scheme? (how much company contriubted)
did you take the salary exchange?
did you additionally contribute?
what was the compound interest growth?
As I understand it it's a money purchase scheme which allows the purchase of an annuity with some or all of the final amount, same as 95% of employers out there.
There are pension calculators out there into which you can enter figures and it gives you an ESTIMATED figure.
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Assuming a pilot was retiring today (impossible I know) after 30 years in the company. What would they expect to receive per anum?
Or what do Easy pilots predict they will receive when they retire?
Or what do Easy pilots predict they will receive when they retire?
Originally Posted by Norman Stanley Fletcher
The short answer to how much you pension will be worth is - not a lot!
Wdtbd, ask yourself the question "If I wasn't getting tax relief on the dosh I put into my pension, would I be doing it?" Answer, probably not... so don't!
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Originally Posted by Kraut
True is, the official "double tax agreement" means considerable tax reduction!
But, there is always the possible application of "Progressionsvorbehalt" (for german readers)
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But, there is always the possible application of "Progressionsvorbehalt" (for german readers)
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Those two sentences still appy! I do not give numbers here, or my individual tax situation, but I can tell you, the german tax authorities are behind every cent with lot of fight and me paying tax advisors!
And honestly, I just hate to repay tax after my tax declaration!
