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Old 21st Nov 2005, 21:47
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Talking **I need Virgin Employees** PlEaSe, pLeAsE, HELP!!

Hi,

I'm a student studing at London South Bank University in my 1st year.

For one of our lessons we are learning about 'Organisational
Culture'.

We have a presentation in about a weeks time on "The Organisational Culture of Virgin Atlantic".

If anyone in this forum works for them, I would love to hear your thoughts about what the culture of Virgin Atlantic is, and what it is like to work for them.
Your comments will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Billie. x

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You might find it helps a lot to actually put some clue as to your question in the header.

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Hi Billie,
I'm afraid I don't work for Virgin, but have you tried calling them?
I'm sure they would be helpful in putting you in touch with someone who would be prepared to help - even if they did put a management spin on things!
Good luck with your studies,

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Caution, it may be presumptive to tell Virgin what their culture is, particularly if it came from the views of employees; an alternative could be to state how you or you believe the industry perceive their culture.

A quote reportedly originating from a Virgin CEO:
“Are we safe? How safe? Show me the data”.

Cultural "types" in terms of the thinking styles they promote.

1. A Humanistic - Helpful culture characterizes organizations that are managed in a participative and person-cantered way. Members are expected to be supportive, constructive and open to influence in their dealings with one another. A humanistic culture leads to effective organisational performance by providing for the growth and active involvement of members.
2. An Affinitive culture characterizes organizations that place a high priority on constructive interpersonal relationships. Members are expected to be friendly, open and sensitive to the satisfaction of their work group. An affinitive culture can enhance organisational performance by promoting open communication, good co-operation and team loyalty.
3. An Approval culture describes organisations in which conflicts are avoided and interpersonal relationships are pleasant - at least superficially. Members feel that they must agree with, gain the approval of, and be liked by others.
Though possibly benign, this type of work environment can limit organisational effectiveness by minimising constructive "differing" and the expression of ideas and opinions.
4. A Conventional culture is descriptive of organisations that are conservative, traditional and bureaucratically controlled. Members are expected to conform, follow the rules and make a good impression. Too conventional a culture can interfere with effectiveness by suppressing innovation and preventing the organisation from adapting to changes in its environment.
5. A Dependant culture is descriptive of organisations that are hierarchically controlled and non-participative. Centralised decision making in such organisations leads members to do only what they are told and to clear all decisions with superiors. Poor performance results from the lack of individual initiative, spontaneity, flexibility and timely decision making.
6. An Avoidance culture characterises organisations that fail to reward success but nevertheless punish mistakes. This negative reward system leads members to shift responsibilities to others and to avoid any possibility of being blamed for a mistake. The survival of this type of organisation is in question since members are unwilling to make decisions, take action or accept risks.
7. An Oppositional culture describes organisations in which confrontation prevails and negativism is rewarded. Members gain status and influence by being critical and thus are reinforced to oppose the ideas of others and to make safe (but ineffectual) decisions. While some questioning is functional, a highly oppositional culture can lead to unnecessary conflict, poor group problem solving and "watered down" solutions to problems.
8. A Power culture is descriptive of non-participative organisations structured on the basis of the authority inherent in members' positions. Members believe they will be rewarded for taking charge and controlling subordinates (and being responsive to demands of superiors). Power-oriented organisations are less effective than their members might think; subordinates resist this type of control. hold back information, and reduce their contributions to the minimal acceptable level.
9. A Competitive culture is one in which winning is valued and members re rewarded for out-performing one another. People in such organisations operative in a "win-lose'' framework and believe they must work against (rather than with) their peers to be noticed. An overly competitive culture can inhibit effectiveness by reducing co-operation and promoting unrealistic standards of performance (either too high or too low).
10. A Perfectionistic culture characterises organisations in which perfectionism, persistence and hard work are valued. Members feel they must avoid all mistakes, keep track of everything and work long hours to attain narrowly-defined objectives. While some amount of this orientation might be useful, too much emphasis on perfectionism can lead members to lose sight of the goal, get lost in details, and develop symptoms of strain.
11. An Achievement culture characterises organisations that do things well and value members who set and accomplish their own goals. Members of these organisations set challenging but realistic goals, establish plans to reach these goals, and pursue them with enthusiasm. Achievement organisations are effective; problems are solved appropriately, clients and customers are served well, and the orientation of members (as well as the organisation itself) is healthy.
12. A Self-Actualising culture characterises organisations that value creativity, quality over quantity, and both task accomplishment and individual growth.
Members of these organisations are encouraged to gain enjoyment from their work, develop themselves, and take on new and interesting activities. While self-actualising organisation can be somewhat difficult to understand and control, the tend to be highly innovative, offer high-quality products and/or services and attract and develop outstanding employees.

Several downloadable papers here.

Safety Culture and its measurement in Aviation

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Don't remember much organisation when I worked there.
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I think you may be asking the wrong people. Pilots tend to stand a little apart from the identifiable culture of the organisation they work for. The nature of the job is so safety orientated that you'd probably find little difference between the pilots of Virgin, BA, Thompson or any of the other major British airlines. We have little effect on, or contact with, the commercial and marketing culture of our organisations, which is the part that the general public sees and the part that differentiates the various companies - and the part, no doubt, that your University is intending to discuss.

If you want an authoritative view on how Virgin Atlantic sees itself, and what it regards as its culture, you'd be best off contacting the company directly. As I'm sure you're aware, Virgin likes little better than an opportunity to sell itself!

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