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JALways, Air japan, NCA....
Hi guys,
A friend of mine considers applying to these airlines through a contract service company.
Would like to get the testimony of some folks working for these airlines under contract with hawaian Aviation or others......
How's the Quality of life, pay, days off, benefits.........
Thanks a lot
A friend of mine considers applying to these airlines through a contract service company.
Would like to get the testimony of some folks working for these airlines under contract with hawaian Aviation or others......
How's the Quality of life, pay, days off, benefits.........
Thanks a lot
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20 days available, 10 days off
--sometimes work 15-16 days a month
--poor scheduling
--poor work rules (Bacically the company can change the rules anytime they want---usually to cover holes in their schedules)
--most of the guys are a good bunch, but a fair amount of personality qurks there
--The Japanese have a strange way of running their aviation world....you learn how to go through the motions to pass your checkride but not really how to operate on the line.
--the don't care about you personally
--training is soooo drawn out and they insult your intelligence (They don't "Know their crowd" before they teach)
--they teach you to fly like a robot
-- the green tea is good though
--I heard IASCO, WASINC, and HACS are hiring for F/O 747
--sometimes work 15-16 days a month
--poor scheduling
--poor work rules (Bacically the company can change the rules anytime they want---usually to cover holes in their schedules)
--most of the guys are a good bunch, but a fair amount of personality qurks there
--The Japanese have a strange way of running their aviation world....you learn how to go through the motions to pass your checkride but not really how to operate on the line.
--the don't care about you personally
--training is soooo drawn out and they insult your intelligence (They don't "Know their crowd" before they teach)
--they teach you to fly like a robot
-- the green tea is good though
--I heard IASCO, WASINC, and HACS are hiring for F/O 747
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Here are the terms from PARC on the Air Japan Contract
Hope this helps!!
OUTLINE Terms & Conditions
Parc / Air Japan - First Officer Assignment
1OPERATOR Air Japan (AJX)
2 BASE (Training) Tokyo, Japan
(Operations)Designated base Osaka or Tokyo
3 REQUIREMENT Pilots to be trained on B767 by Air Japan for use by Air Japan in conducting Air Japan flights
4 COMMENCEMENT DATE March 2006
A screening process to include:
(i) Interview/simulator
(ii) Medical
5 DURATION 5 years.
Training estimated 6/7 months and will be carried out at the ANA training centre Tokyo.
6 REMUNERATION PACKAGE A structured remuneration package compromising:
First Officer: A gross Salary including flight pay per month pro rata of ;
Training = 5,700.00 USD and then 6,584.00 USD for the remainder of year 1
Year 2 = 7,584.00 USD
Year 3 = 7,849.00 USD
Year 4 = 8,004.00 USD
Year 5 = 8,184.00 USD
A contribution into a Pension fund managed by Parc Aviation of 8% of salary ( excluding flight pay) per month pro rata.
In addition to above salary a contract completion bonus of USD 18,000 will be paid plus interest at the end of the 5 year assignment period.
7 BLOCK HOURS 65 hours per month - subject to a maximum of 100 hours in 30 days. Hours in excess of 65 hours per month will be paid at the rate of one sixty fifth (1/65) of the basic monthly salary plus 20% per hour of part thereof.
8 DAYS OFF
(1) TRAINING
2 days per week.
(2) OPERATIONS
Basically 10 days granted consecutively free of duty per month.
9 ACCOMMODATION
(1) TRAINING
Hotel accommodation in Tokyo for the full duration of the Training Period. In addition a living allowance of USD 44 per day shall be payable to each crew member during this period in Tokyo.
(2) OPERATIONS
(i) Single room hotel accommodation at layover stations other than the designated base of operations.
(ii) At base single room hotel accommodation on specific rostered standby duties.
(iii) An accommodation allowance of
USD 500 per month at Osaka/Tokyo base. Pilots will be required to pay for accommodation at operating base. In the event of exceeding 120 nights in Japan per year (excluding standby duties) USD 50 for each additional night will be paid.
10 GROUND TRANSPORTATION
(1) TRAINING
(2) OPERATIONS
Ground transportation between hotel and Haneda Airport, reimbursed weekly at public transport rates.
Ground transportation at outstations is provided.
11 AIR TRANSPORTATION
(1) TRAINING
Positive air transportation provided at commencement and termination of the training programme in respect crewmembers. In addition Air Japan will provide free return tickets to eligible dependents to visit Tokyo once during the training period.
(2) OPERATIONS
An air transportation allowance of USD 1,000 per month pro rata shall be payable to each crew member towards the cost of commuting to operating base.
12 VACATION
The entitlement is 24 days vacation per annum. Vacation may be awarded during the training period.
13 SICK LEAVE
Each pilot will accrue one (1) paid sick day for each two (2) complete months service. The maximum number accrued shall be twelve (12) days.
14 UNIFORMS & MANUALS
Provided by Air Japan.
15 MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS
Maximum age 55 at date of entry. No history of accident / incidents.
Minimum Qualifications:
First Officers hold a current and valid ATPL licence including a radio licence acceptable for validation by the JCAB for the issue of a Japanese ATPL.
Hold a valid medical certificate issued by an ICAO member state
First Officer
- Total Flight Time in excess of 3000 hours
- Total Commercial Jet Time in excess of
1000 hours
- Hold Jet type rating on licence
- Hold a command rating on multi crew
cockpit aircraft
- Valid Medical
- Maximum age 55 at date of entry
16 INSURANCE PARC Aviation will provide crew member with Personnel Accident Insurance, Temporary Total Disablement Illness cover and BUPA Medical Insurance Scheme.
17 LOSS OF LICENCE INSURANCE Professional Loss of Licence Insurance will be made available to crew members at discounted rates.
The above terms and conditions are currently under discussion with Air Japan and the final terms and conditions will provide the basis for a contract agreement between selected pilots for the assignment and PARC.
Hope this helps!!
OUTLINE Terms & Conditions
Parc / Air Japan - First Officer Assignment
1OPERATOR Air Japan (AJX)
2 BASE (Training) Tokyo, Japan
(Operations)Designated base Osaka or Tokyo
3 REQUIREMENT Pilots to be trained on B767 by Air Japan for use by Air Japan in conducting Air Japan flights
4 COMMENCEMENT DATE March 2006
A screening process to include:
(i) Interview/simulator
(ii) Medical
5 DURATION 5 years.
Training estimated 6/7 months and will be carried out at the ANA training centre Tokyo.
6 REMUNERATION PACKAGE A structured remuneration package compromising:
First Officer: A gross Salary including flight pay per month pro rata of ;
Training = 5,700.00 USD and then 6,584.00 USD for the remainder of year 1
Year 2 = 7,584.00 USD
Year 3 = 7,849.00 USD
Year 4 = 8,004.00 USD
Year 5 = 8,184.00 USD
A contribution into a Pension fund managed by Parc Aviation of 8% of salary ( excluding flight pay) per month pro rata.
In addition to above salary a contract completion bonus of USD 18,000 will be paid plus interest at the end of the 5 year assignment period.
7 BLOCK HOURS 65 hours per month - subject to a maximum of 100 hours in 30 days. Hours in excess of 65 hours per month will be paid at the rate of one sixty fifth (1/65) of the basic monthly salary plus 20% per hour of part thereof.
8 DAYS OFF
(1) TRAINING
2 days per week.
(2) OPERATIONS
Basically 10 days granted consecutively free of duty per month.
9 ACCOMMODATION
(1) TRAINING
Hotel accommodation in Tokyo for the full duration of the Training Period. In addition a living allowance of USD 44 per day shall be payable to each crew member during this period in Tokyo.
(2) OPERATIONS
(i) Single room hotel accommodation at layover stations other than the designated base of operations.
(ii) At base single room hotel accommodation on specific rostered standby duties.
(iii) An accommodation allowance of
USD 500 per month at Osaka/Tokyo base. Pilots will be required to pay for accommodation at operating base. In the event of exceeding 120 nights in Japan per year (excluding standby duties) USD 50 for each additional night will be paid.
10 GROUND TRANSPORTATION
(1) TRAINING
(2) OPERATIONS
Ground transportation between hotel and Haneda Airport, reimbursed weekly at public transport rates.
Ground transportation at outstations is provided.
11 AIR TRANSPORTATION
(1) TRAINING
Positive air transportation provided at commencement and termination of the training programme in respect crewmembers. In addition Air Japan will provide free return tickets to eligible dependents to visit Tokyo once during the training period.
(2) OPERATIONS
An air transportation allowance of USD 1,000 per month pro rata shall be payable to each crew member towards the cost of commuting to operating base.
12 VACATION
The entitlement is 24 days vacation per annum. Vacation may be awarded during the training period.
13 SICK LEAVE
Each pilot will accrue one (1) paid sick day for each two (2) complete months service. The maximum number accrued shall be twelve (12) days.
14 UNIFORMS & MANUALS
Provided by Air Japan.
15 MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS
Maximum age 55 at date of entry. No history of accident / incidents.
Minimum Qualifications:
First Officers hold a current and valid ATPL licence including a radio licence acceptable for validation by the JCAB for the issue of a Japanese ATPL.
Hold a valid medical certificate issued by an ICAO member state
First Officer
- Total Flight Time in excess of 3000 hours
- Total Commercial Jet Time in excess of
1000 hours
- Hold Jet type rating on licence
- Hold a command rating on multi crew
cockpit aircraft
- Valid Medical
- Maximum age 55 at date of entry
16 INSURANCE PARC Aviation will provide crew member with Personnel Accident Insurance, Temporary Total Disablement Illness cover and BUPA Medical Insurance Scheme.
17 LOSS OF LICENCE INSURANCE Professional Loss of Licence Insurance will be made available to crew members at discounted rates.
The above terms and conditions are currently under discussion with Air Japan and the final terms and conditions will provide the basis for a contract agreement between selected pilots for the assignment and PARC.
